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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Going out of your way to perform a duty not typical of your office to make a statement is taking a side...
    What are you talking about "Going out of your way" and "Not typical of your office". I hate to tell you digs....but probably 1/2 or more weddings in this country are performed by judges. It is VERY typical of the job of a judge...and what evidence do you have that she "went out of her way". I suspect that she was asked and she said, I would be honored. That' what the judge that performed my wedding said. See Digs...a lot of people can perform a job without engaging in "moral acrobatics". Suppose a "Christian" fast food worker decided that I was against her moral fiber and religious beliefs to serve gay people. If they fired her, would it be wrong?
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    why do you show such disrespect for your political rivals?.... the answer won't be much different to either question,
    I don't think I do. If you are referring to this post, I'll give you that one. But in general, I don't believe I do.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Off topic. But why do so many Americans display such disrespect towards older people? She is an extraordinarily accomplished woman and her age has NOTHING to do with the conversation.
    thats easy
    its easier to use strawmen and appeals to emotion and fallacies to attack than reality

    are there old people that dont know any better or are mentally off? of course but that doesnt mean they all are. So when they (old people) are showing a person up or have facts or logic a person doesnt like SOME people choose to just TRY and lump them in with the lesser group.

    this doesnt work with honest objective people though and its as transparent as glass.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I don't think I do. If you are referring to this post, I'll give you that one. But in general, I don't believe I do.
    I can't speak accurately to your beliefs or intent (I don't reside in your head).. only to how your words read.
    you're often very disrespectful to your rivals(conservatives), while demanding they be nice to you.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    Again, if they don't want gay marriage, theyíre free to not get gay married. Unless they can prove harm, they have no right to stop someone else from doing it. It simply isn't their right to not be offended. If it's against their tradition to get gay married, I recommend that they not get gay married. If it's against their religion to get gay married, I recommend that they not get gay married. If it's against their families values to get gay married, I recommend that they not get gay married. If it's against their morality to get gay married, I recommend that they not get gay married. If they somehow think it's common sense not to get gay married, I recommend that they not get gay married.

    That's their right, and it always has been, and always will be. It's not their right to deny equal protection of the law, though. They don't have that right, no matter how mad it makes them.



    And bigots can be bigoted without interrupting someone else's life. They're free to sit around hating gays all they want. That's not illegal. Denying equal protection of the law is illegal, though, so they're not allowed to.



    You just championed state law being whatever the state wants to do, didn't you? The law they're being investigated under is state law, not federal law. So this is the people of the state saying that what they really don't want is bigoted businesses discriminating against gay people.

    And no one's trying to police your thoughts. You are, have always been, and will always be free to hate gays. You're just not free to deny them equal protection of the law. Taht's all. And if a bakery would rather go out of business than sell a cake to a gay lady, that's their own stupid fault. Someone else will surely pick up the business.

    LOL.

    Just about every time a person gets into a discussion about this issue with a member of the thought police, one of the first things that has to happen is to be told you hate, you are a bigot and so on. It's like an old stuck broken record or something. Just so you will know, that crap doesn't work on me. So keep it up if you want or try something else if you want. Maybe your thought police friends get off on it but I don't pay it much mind.

    If the bakery couple didn't want to make the cake for the gay couple on their religious beliefs, well, there is that freedom of religion thing that the Constitution is supposed to look out for people for. Funny how that thought never crossed your mind or if it did, you didn't mention it because it wouldn't fit your legal theory example. Last time I checked, the US constitution checked any and all state law. But maybe you and the thought police don't care much for the Constitution?
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What are you talking about "Going out of your way" and "Not typical of your office". I hate to tell you digs....but probably 1/2 or more weddings in this country are performed by judges. It is VERY typical of the job of a judge...and what evidence do you have that she "went out of her way". I suspect that she was asked and she said, I would be honored. That' what the judge that performed my wedding said. See Digs...a lot of people can perform a job without engaging in "moral acrobatics". Suppose a "Christian" fast food worker decided that I was against her moral fiber and religious beliefs to serve gay people. If they fired her, would it be wrong?
    it's your argument that it is very typical of the job of a Supreme Court Justice to officiate weddings?...really?

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    it's your argument that it is very typical of the job of a Supreme Court Justice to officiate weddings?...really?
    No....but it is not atypical of a judge to be asked to officiate at a wedding.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Does this mean she should recuse herself from gay marriage issues before the court in the future?

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    Being a Libertarian doesn't mean you can't have standards, morals or religious traditions.
    Standards yes, morals yes, religious traditions yes but forcing them upon people who do not have your standards, your morals, your religious traditions does not seem in line with libertarian views IMHO. That sounds more like conservative moralistic and religious authoritarianism.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No....but it is not atypical of a judge to be asked to officiate at a wedding.
    yeah..umm.. we're not talking about judges in general

    ....we're talking about supreme court justices.

    I don't think I've ever heard of any sitting supreme court justice officiating any weddings ( which is why i asked earlier if anyone has heard of such a thing)

    I think the OP nailed it.. it was a middle finger to political rivals.

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