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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I think this is Ginsburg giving all those close minded haters the finger. Awesome!

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg will become the nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony, the Washington Post reports, marrying Kennedy Center President Michael M. Kaiser and economist John Roberts on Saturday.

    Justice Ginsburg Becomes First Supreme Court Justice To Officiate Same-Sex Wedding | ThinkProgress
    And what better way to accentuate a couple's love for each other than having a member of the SC give an old, boney, middle finger to her political rivals?

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    "Not getting your way every time you stomp your feet" isn't "being discriminated against". If those people oppose gay marriage, they're free to not get gay married. No issue.

    Once again, good answer if that's all there was to it. But it's not. In state after state, when the voters have had the decision put before them, they don't want it. For a wide range of reasons. Tradition, religion, family values, morality, common sense,... whatever.
    But the thought police do nothing but attack and "stomp their feet" and make accusations and have many non thinking people think this is the most important issue in the world. It's not. Gays can be gay without getting married.

    But back to the discrimination part. Just the other day while listening to the radio a news story came on about a bakery, I think, where a gay couple wanted the owners to do their wedding. The owners declined their business based on whatever reason it was that they had against gay marriage. Now of course, a lawsuit has been filed so the bakery owners said screw it, and closed up their shop. So the thought police win this one. But it won't end there. The thought police will continue to feel more and more righteous and vindictive and will seek more legal control over peoples thoughts, words and actions and will discriminate against them by any method.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    In state after state, when the voters have had the decision put before them, they don't want it. For a wide range of reasons. Tradition, religion, family values, morality, common sense,... whatever.
    Again, if they don't want gay marriage, they’re free to not get gay married. Unless they can prove harm, they have no right to stop someone else from doing it. It simply isn't their right to not be offended. If it's against their tradition to get gay married, I recommend that they not get gay married. If it's against their religion to get gay married, I recommend that they not get gay married. If it's against their families values to get gay married, I recommend that they not get gay married. If it's against their morality to get gay married, I recommend that they not get gay married. If they somehow think it's common sense not to get gay married, I recommend that they not get gay married.

    That's their right, and it always has been, and always will be. It's not their right to deny equal protection of the law, though. They don't have that right, no matter how mad it makes them.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    But the thought police do nothing but attack and "stomp their feet" and make accusations and have many non thinking people think this is the most important issue in the world. It's not. Gays can be gay without getting married.
    And bigots can be bigoted without interrupting someone else's life. They're free to sit around hating gays all they want. That's not illegal. Denying equal protection of the law is illegal, though, so they're not allowed to.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    But back to the discrimination part. Just the other day while listening to the radio a news story came on about a bakery, I think, where a gay couple wanted the owners to do their wedding. The owners declined their business based on whatever reason it was that they had against gay marriage. Now of course, a lawsuit has been filed so the bakery owners said screw it, and closed up their shop. So the thought police win this one. But it won't end there. The thought police will continue to feel more and more righteous and vindictive and will seek more legal control over peoples thoughts, words and actions and will discriminate against them by any method.
    You just championed state law being whatever the state wants to do, didn't you? The law they're being investigated under is state law, not federal law. So this is the people of the state saying that what they really don't want is bigoted businesses discriminating against gay people.

    And no one's trying to police your thoughts. You are, have always been, and will always be free to hate gays. You're just not free to deny them equal protection of the law. Taht's all. And if a bakery would rather go out of business than sell a cake to a gay lady, that's their own stupid fault. Someone else will surely pick up the business.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    given by a person who claims to hold liberty as the highest good but seems more authoritarian than a libertarian. You want to stamp on your standards, morals, tradition and religious views upon others. I am sorry, but you do not sound like a libertarian at all.
    Being a Libertarian doesn't mean you can't have standards, morals or religious traditions.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    And what better way to accentuate a couple's love for each other than having a member of the SC give an old, boney, middle finger to her political rivals?
    Off topic. But why do so many Americans display such disrespect towards older people? She is an extraordinarily accomplished woman and her age has NOTHING to do with the conversation.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I think this is Ginsburg giving all those close minded haters the finger. Awesome!

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg will become the nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony, the Washington Post reports, marrying Kennedy Center President Michael M. Kaiser and economist John Roberts on Saturday.

    Justice Ginsburg Becomes First Supreme Court Justice To Officiate Same-Sex Wedding | ThinkProgress
    AWESOME!!!

    just one more stone in the road for america to finally grant equal rights and end one more of our discrimination and infringements.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    Being a Libertarian doesn't mean you can't have standards, morals or religious traditions.
    that's true enough... but then there's a matter utilizing the state to coerce others into living by your standards, morals, and religious traditions that doesn't reconcile very well with libertarianism.

    as a Libertarian, i'm perfectly fine with you being opposed to SSM... primarily because that's your personal deal and none of our business.
    try to bar or ban others from supporting it or engaging in it... that's another matter entirely...you're leaving the world of libertarianism and entering the world of authoritarianism.

    the progressives we have around here won't like that you are opposed to it at all...anything short of full support is unacceptable to them.
    the conservatives are the same way, in the opposite direction.

    anyways, do your thing with your morals and standards, but allow others to do as they will as well.... liberty is then maximized

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    AWESOME!!!

    just one more stone in the road for america to finally grant equal rights and end one more of our discrimination and infringements.
    umm..she's presiding over a same sex wedding, not writing laws, not deciding cases, she isn't doing anything of substance...... it's political theater, nothing more, nothing less.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Off topic. But why do so many Americans display such disrespect towards older people? She is an extraordinarily accomplished woman and her age has NOTHING to do with the conversation.
    why do you show such disrespect for your political rivals?.... the answer won't be much different to either question,

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    umm..she's presiding over a same sex wedding, not writing laws, not deciding cases, she isn't doing anything of substance...... it's political theater, nothing more, nothing less.
    thats why its just a stone and it does have substance IMO because she is the first

    and as a bonus at the very least it pisses bigots off and thats great entertainment too
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