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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....read carefully. I said that others and myself "pointed out that you were wrong". I'm not taking credit for Peter King's post at all. Oh...and BTW....you didn't simply "pose a question"....you made a completely knee-jerk assertion and then spewed more propaganda on top of it. See...the lesson to be learned here is that it is ALWAYS better to admit your mistakes, take responsibility and move on. When you try to shuffle and rationalize you just continue to dig yourself deeper into a hole.

    Do you honestly think that anyone thought that you were taking the wise path and making a simple inquiry? Seriously?

    for those who don't want to travel back ot page one... here is what i asked..... here is my "knee jerk assertion" that i "spewed propaganda on top of"

    is it common for supreme court justices to officiate at weddings?
    ... that's it, that's the whole post.

    good lord almighty.. what was i thinking posting such a "knee jerk assertion"...it's got all the earmarks of a trap!.. a loaded question!.. propaganda in query form!.. the paranoid liberals will fall nicely into the well laid snare!


    I don't have my super secret ultrapartisan idiot decoder ring on me right now, so explain how in the world can you see that as anything other than a simple ****ing question

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    really? i'm making things up?... yeah, you caught me, i just totally made up the civil rights act of 1964...specifically title 2... my imagination is that ****ing awesome!

    i'm not sure what you don't understand about it being illegal in every state.. but if you want to pretend your state is a special snowflake, go right ahead.
    Lesbian couple refused wedding cake files state discrimination complaint | OregonLive.com

    Oregon's Bureau of Labor and Industries' civil rights division will investigate to determine if the business violated the Oregon Equality Act of 2007, which protects the rights of gays, lesbians, bisexual and transgender people in employment, housing and public accommodations.
    The Oregon Equality Act is national? Are you sure? Are you absolutely certain you're not making stuff up?
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    for those who don't want to travel back ot page one... here is what i asked..... here is my "knee jerk assertion" that i "spewed propaganda on top of"

    ... that's it, that's the whole post.
    At least be honest. THAT wasn't your post at all....here is your knee-jerk post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yeah..umm.. we're not talking about judges in general

    ....we're talking about supreme court justices.

    I don't think I've ever heard of any sitting supreme court justice officiating any weddings ( which is why i asked earlier if anyone has heard of such a thing)

    I think the OP nailed it.. it was a middle finger to political rivals.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    I hope they have a nice same sex union, because it's not a marriage. If it ever reaches the SC, I guess she'll have to recuse.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    Lesbian couple refused wedding cake files state discrimination complaint | OregonLive.com



    The Oregon Equality Act is national? Are you sure? Are you absolutely certain you're not making stuff up?
    Thanks for posting that seriously. Until now all I heard about this was on the radio.

    Here's part of the article I like as it still offers hope for those of us who still have faith in the Constitution of the United States:

    ""It's definitely not discrimination at all. We don't have anything against lesbians or homosexuals," she said. "It has to do with our morals and beliefs. It's so frustrating because we went through all of this in January, when it all came out."

    The complaint will be assigned to an investigator. If substantial evidence of discrimination is found, the inquiry could lead to a settlement or to prosecution before an administrative law judge. A proposed order would be made to the labor commissioner, who serves as the final arbiter and decides if violations are warranted.

    "We are committed to a fair and thorough investigation to determine whether there's substantial evidence of unlawful discrimination," said Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian. He advocated for the 2007 law when he was a state senator.

    In the other nine discrimination complaints based on sexual orientation, four were unsubstantiated, three resulted in a negotiated settlement before a finding, one was privately settled and withdrawn, and one is pending -- a Portland case involving a bar called the P Club.

    The law provides an exemption for religious organizations and parochial schools, but does not allow private business owners to discriminate based on sexual orientation, just as they cannot legally deny service based on race, age, veteran status, disability or religion.

    "Everybody is entitled to their own beliefs, but that doesn't mean that folks have the right to discriminate," Avakian said, speaking generally."


    First off, seems like the deck might be a little stacked against them being this cat Avakian lobbied for this type nonsense to begin with. But that's another issue.

    But nobody gets found "guilty" of anything. That aren't charged with a crime. It's just more thought police in action. The article admitted as much. It said the aim was to "rehabilitate". So now, peoples religious constitutional protections are not only thrown to the curb with this type law, brainwashing is being sanctioned by the state of Oregon. In this particular case, the states aim would be to change the owners of this small business religious beliefs. This is a bigger disaster than I first thought. This is exactly the type stuff that goes on in communist or statist countries.

    Yes siree bob, the thought police have it going on in Oregon. Glad I don't live there. I wonder what group of people they will target next? These thought police types can't survive without a villain so they will always come up with one.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    She would not be allowed to officiate a marriage ceremony in Pennsylvania. Perhaps that is why there has only been 1 justice of the Supreme Court from here.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I hope they have a nice same sex union, because it's not a marriage. If it ever reaches the SC, I guess she'll have to recuse.
    Wrong. Its just as much a marriage as any straight marriage....sorry to burst your bubble...and its becoming legal in more and more states across this great country. When it reaches the Supreme Court, even the backwards Southern and fly-over states will have to drop their bigoted laws. And pretell.....what is the basis for recusal? LOL....
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    ...that's exactly what I got too.

    Peter's google-fu is stronger than ours it seems
    Impressive.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    The idea for lifetime apointments is based upon the legal principle of Res Judicata; Latin for "a thing decided; a matter [already] judged." This common law doctrine is meant to prevent relitigation of cases between the same parties regarding the same issues and preserve the binding nature of the court's decision.

    Many Americans seem to like trying to relitigate any issue they don't like the ruling on. This happans often in State courts where most judges are elected to terms in office, even at the State Supreme Court level. Thus, issues regarding property rights, civil rights, criminal law interpretations, etc. are constantly being rehashed in attempts to reverse decisions back and forth.

    Having a Supreme Court Justice serve for a life term means that as long as that Justice sits...you know where they are going to side when it comes to cases attempting to challenge prior decisions already established by the Court. At the very least, they will be able to argue their rationale with newly appointed members in an effort to preserve the rulings; at the most, insure the decision remains binding.

    I don't think setting term limits is a good idea for SCOTUS because when it comes to decisions about Constitutional interpretation we need long-term stability in judicial decision-making.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wrong. Its just as much a marriage as any straight marriage....sorry to burst your bubble...and its becoming legal in more and more states across this great country. When it reaches the Supreme Court, even the backwards Southern and fly-over states will have to drop their bigoted laws. And pretell.....what is the basis for recusal? LOL....
    Oh, that's just my opinion, but marriage requires members of the opposite sex, same sex is different than opposite.
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