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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I doubt I will see a retraction from you when someone proves you wrong, correct?
    a retraction for what?...I really have never heard of Justices presiding over weddings.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    a retraction for what?...I really have never heard of Justices presiding over weddings.
    Well...you are wrong. Now....are you willing to admit it and issue a retraction....or are you going to look foolish and keep spouting off the same garbage even though you have been proven wrong?
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    It's illegal for businesses to discriminate in that state. If they want to run a bigoted business, they have to do it in another state. That state said "No."
    .. public business... i'm quite certain there are private businesses, association, clubs, etc that are bigoted or discriminatory and operate in your area... many whose bigotry or discrimination you agree with.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    .. public business... i'm quite certain there are private businesses, association, clubs, etc that are bigoted or discriminatory and operate in your area... many whose bigotry or discrimination you agree with.
    Whether or not there are, and whether or not I agree with them, and whether or not anything else about me and some imaginary groups, it's still illegal for businesses in that state to discriminate. If you want a business license there, if you want to be open to the public, then you're not allowed to refuse service to people based on gender. That's the law the state passed and enforces. So, if they want to refuse service to gay couples, then they can't be open to the public. That's the law in that state.

    Maybe they can move to another state and try again.
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Well...you are wrong. Now....are you willing to admit it and issue a retraction....or are you going to look foolish and keep spouting off the same garbage even though you have been proven wrong?
    I'm wrong?... you mean i have actually heard about justices presiding over weddings?...interesting, you would have thought i would remember hearing about them, you'd think i would have never asked the ****ing question if i did hear about them....
    are you stupid or something?

    so they have presided over weddings... now I know they have.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    Whether or not there are, and whether or not I agree with them, and whether or not anything else about me and some imaginary groups, it's still illegal for businesses in that state to discriminate. If you want a business license there, if you want to be open to the public, then you're not allowed to refuse service to people based on gender. That's the law the state passed and enforces. So, if they want to refuse service to gay couples, then they can't be open to the public. That's the law in that state.

    Maybe they can move to another state and try again.
    yes.. all that is true for public access business.... but not just in your state, but every state.... your state is not special... it's federal law.

    my point is that you can have a discriminatory business, it just can't be a pubic access business.... and that too, goes for all 50 states.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Wow, I Googled that and got an article stating that she was the first. hmmmmm.
    ...that's exactly what I got too.

    Peter's google-fu is stronger than ours it seems

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I agree. They get those jobs for the REST OF THEIR LIVES.....that's fkn scary.

    Agreed, they are just people and because of that fallible.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I think that they should get a ten year term with no chance for another appointment on the Court... a simple solution.
    The idea for lifetime apointments is based upon the legal principle of Res Judicata; Latin for "a thing decided; a matter [already] judged." This common law doctrine is meant to prevent relitigation of cases between the same parties regarding the same issues and preserve the binding nature of the court's decision.

    Many Americans seem to like trying to relitigate any issue they don't like the ruling on. This happans often in State courts where most judges are elected to terms in office, even at the State Supreme Court level. Thus, issues regarding property rights, civil rights, criminal law interpretations, etc. are constantly being rehashed in attempts to reverse decisions back and forth.

    Having a Supreme Court Justice serve for a life term means that as long as that Justice sits...you know where they are going to side when it comes to cases attempting to challenge prior decisions already established by the Court. At the very least, they will be able to argue their rationale with newly appointed members in an effort to preserve the rulings; at the most, insure the decision remains binding.

    I don't think setting term limits is a good idea for SCOTUS because when it comes to decisions about Constitutional interpretation we need long-term stability in judicial decision-making.

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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I'm wrong?... you mean i have actually heard about justices presiding over weddings?...interesting, you would have thought i would remember hearing about them, you'd think i would have never asked the ****ing question if i did hear about them....
    are you stupid or something?

    so they have presided over weddings... now I know they have.

    from me, you get nothing.... you earned nothing, you deserve nothing...get back under your bridge.
    for Peter King .. Kudos...well done bringing the facts man.
    LOL....I expected no less....you come into this thread....knee-jerk and spew all over the place and when proven wrong....you shuffle away. typical
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    Re: Ginsburg nationís first Supreme Court justice to officiate a same-sex ceremony

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yes.. all that is true for public access business.... but not just in your state, but every state.... your state is not special... it's federal law.

    my point is that you can have a discriminatory business, it just can't be a pubic access business.... and that too, goes for all 50 states.
    First of all, these guys were charged with a state law. It's not illegal by federal law. So you're making stuff up.

    Second, it doesn't matter. Regardless of what level the law was passed at (which was state), they were still breaking it. If they don't like the state anti-discrimination law, they can move to another state.

    Isn't taht what the state's rights crowds keep saying when they try to pass religious law at the state level?
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