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ya know, when we have threads about rich folks or businessmen wanting to leave.. lefties are all about " don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out".. and decrying them as unpatriotic and such..

now all of a sudden , **** changes.... these folks aren't unpatriotic and lefties want them to stay...and they somehow deduce this is actually a war on intelligence ( or some such ignorant bull****) while blaming Republicans for Obama's idea which is supposedly leading to this exodus ( that doesn't exist yet)

the hackery... it's thick.


as for me...I don't care.. stay.. go.. it's their choice.
it's not like their research would be banned from the US in any event
 
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Well if you don't want any progress in medicine than I guess thats your choice. Enjoy the 60 year old therapies.......
 
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Speaking of ignorance, this post takes the cake.

Agreed. But it's left wing ignorance. The right wing ignorance is equally as bad, as evidenced in this thread, in which many equate climate science to all science funding (if I had to guess, it's probably about 1% of funding).
 
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I like how the right wingers are just complaining about global warming in this thread. Not like there are other (most) scientific questions to explore. No new technology to develop. No diseases to cure. No understanding of the cosmos to unlock. Nope, none of that.

An immunologist friend of mine and her three colleagues all lost funding because of the sequester. We don't need to develop better vaccines, right?

Yeah, the typical rightwing response to the outing of their memes (science should be funded by industry) is to respond with another discredited rightwing meme (scientists are conspiring to pretend global warming is happening to get government grants).

It's empty-headed memes all the way down with conservatives.
 
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I understand that. But the issue was if variables cannot be completely isolated then that causes a science to become a pseudo-science. See I asked why social sciences are pseudo-sciences and I had a response from you that it was because variables could not be completely isolated.

On such premises then perhaps astronomy, quantum mechanics, etc, could also be pseudo-sciences then? They do not have all variables covered while venturing into the unknowns of dark matter and dark energy neither.

Not necessarily, because they are hypothesis built upon a foundation of hard science to explain the whys and hows of what science has already proven.

In my experience with the social sciences, a lot of times it seems like they make a hypothesis built upon shaky research at best, or at worst a hypothesis's built on another hypothesis. Not to mention, a lot of time their research findings aren't quantifiable and subject to interpretation. Dark matter may be a hypothesis, but at least there its not open to interpretation and it has an equation ;).

I guess its unfair to call them pseudoscientists as that puts them in the category of straight up quackery, IE the homeopathists and astrologists of the world. But the word "science" should be left to the scientists and those who study the world without following the methods of science should really find another name. Social researchers sounds a lot better in my opinion.
 
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It USED to be a conservative concept to have the government fund basic research.

But today's Conservatives are a different breed. I'm sure I would have classified myself as a Conservative 30-40 years ago, or as a Tory in the UK. But now....
 
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I guess its unfair to call them pseudoscientists as that puts them in the category of straight up quackery, IE the homeopathists and astrologists of the world.

The appropriate term would be 'soft' sciences (psychology, economics) vs 'hard' science (physics, chemistry).

Much better descriptor.
 
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So you send me links to previews of books that I cannot read fully. Where, specifically [ page number book name, etc...] did you get your declaration that doctors give treatments to sick people that actually make the patient sicker so they can make more money on them. You have read the books right? Why not tell me the pages in the previews that I can actually view where the information you indicate is there can be found and analyzed? After reading a few pages and the tables of contents, I did not get the impression that the books said anything of the sort.

I study history... and in 1900 the average lifespan was approximately age 43 in the United States. We now have almost doubled that. While correlation is not causation, it is obviously somehow closely associated. Something in our business/medical model is generating longer lives. Maybe its global warming/climate change... oh no, that is supposed to be bad for us...ummm...maybe it was all the world wars? No....that would kill us off earlier too...hmmmmm....oh, must be socialism/communism...but hey, they killed over a hundred million of their own people in the last 100 years...so no, that doesn't seem to fit either....oh what oh what could it be...??
 
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So you send me links to previews of books that I cannot read fully. Where, specifically [ page number book name, etc...] did you get your declaration that doctors give treatments to sick people that actually make the patient sicker so they can make more money on them. You have read the books right? Why not tell me the pages in the previews that I can actually view where the information you indicate is there can be found and analyzed? After reading a few pages and the tables of contents, I did not get the impression that the books said anything of the sort.

I study history... and in 1900 the average lifespan was approximately age 43 in the United States. We now have almost doubled that. While correlation is not causation, it is obviously somehow closely associated. Something in our business/medical model is generating longer lives. Maybe its global warming/climate change... oh no, that is supposed to be bad for us...ummm...maybe it was all the world wars? No....that would kill us off earlier too...hmmmmm....oh, must be socialism/communism...but hey, they killed over a hundred million of their own people in the last 100 years...so no, that doesn't seem to fit either....oh what oh what could it be...??

Haha...laughs.

These books were to tell you the context of our medical culture, Specific information on the dangers of Chemo, surgery, and radiation are all over the internet.

Treating the Treatment: Toxicity of Cancer Chemotherapy

Many cancer chemotherapeutic agents can produce toxicity, even at the usual therapeutic doses.

CT findings of chemotherapy-induced toxicity: what... [Radiology. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI

It is imperative that radiologists be aware of these toxicities and that they learn to recognize the relevant findings so that they can provide a complete differential diagnosis and thus play an important role in patient care.

Carcinogenic effects of radiothera... [Oncology (Williston Park). 1999] - PubMed - NCBI

Such therapy may raise the risk of leukemia, particularly in association with certain types of adjuvant chemotherapy. Lung cancer risk is also increased, especially in cigarette smokers, and there are some indications that the risks of esophageal cancer and sarcomas may be elevated as well.

Cancer risks following diagnostic and therapeutic radiation exposure in children

Many studies of radiation for treatment of benign diseases and a few studies of diagnostic radiation exposure have yielded much of the information on the risk for radiation-related cancer in children. Although most cancers can be induced by radiation, these studies demonstrate dose-related increased risks of cancer of the thyroid, breasts and brain, non-melanoma skin cancer, and leukemia.

Intensive weekly chemotherapy is not effective i... [Br J Cancer. 1999] - PubMed - NCBI

The outcome of this intensive chemotherapy regimen does not support its use in pancreatic cancer.

even fox news is reporting the nonsense therapies that are only use to made money for companies.

Does chemotherapy do more harm than good? | Fox News Video

Pharmageddon

Page 52

" Millions of people have died during this period after having radical surgery, intense radiotherapy, or intense chemotherapy."

Its only is a matter of time before it will be obvious to the populations.
 
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Haha...laughs.

These books were to tell you the context of our medical culture, Specific information on the dangers of Chemo, surgery, and radiation are all over the internet.

Treating the Treatment: Toxicity of Cancer Chemotherapy

Many cancer chemotherapeutic agents can produce toxicity, even at the usual therapeutic doses.

CT findings of chemotherapy-induced toxicity: what... [Radiology. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI

It is imperative that radiologists be aware of these toxicities and that they learn to recognize the relevant findings so that they can provide a complete differential diagnosis and thus play an important role in patient care.

Carcinogenic effects of radiothera... [Oncology (Williston Park). 1999] - PubMed - NCBI

Such therapy may raise the risk of leukemia, particularly in association with certain types of adjuvant chemotherapy. Lung cancer risk is also increased, especially in cigarette smokers, and there are some indications that the risks of esophageal cancer and sarcomas may be elevated as well.

Cancer risks following diagnostic and therapeutic radiation exposure in children

Many studies of radiation for treatment of benign diseases and a few studies of diagnostic radiation exposure have yielded much of the information on the risk for radiation-related cancer in children. Although most cancers can be induced by radiation, these studies demonstrate dose-related increased risks of cancer of the thyroid, breasts and brain, non-melanoma skin cancer, and leukemia.

Intensive weekly chemotherapy is not effective i... [Br J Cancer. 1999] - PubMed - NCBI

The outcome of this intensive chemotherapy regimen does not support its use in pancreatic cancer.

even fox news is reporting the nonsense therapies that are only use to made money for companies.

Does chemotherapy do more harm than good? | Fox News Video

Pharmageddon

Page 52

" Millions of people have died during this period after having radical surgery, intense radiotherapy, or intense chemotherapy."

Its only is a matter of time before it will be obvious to the populations.
Would they have died otherwise? How many survived and lived longer lives? Again, you do not address the facts that our lifespans have increased substantially... that is all just random chance?

So, when you are laughing at "conservatives" and "right wing trolls" along with our defense of capitalism, how are you able to disguise, manipulate your own mind to close off all the prosperity world wide that comes with the self interest, the incentives, the freedoms concomitant with this system that allows private ownership and is based on voluntary exchange [ the genius of free markets as both parties walk away thinking they got the better deal ], as well as the self regulating nature of capitalism? The better nutrition world wide, the less hunger and starvation, the far wider disbursement of these medical assets world wide for self knowledge and better preventive care, earlier...

Sure wasn't a result of the communist regimes... and the socialists of Europe only under the protection of the American military and taxpayer...now that they are having to shoulder more and more of that burden themselves, even before, they are/were showing signs of imminent collapse... too heavy on that socialism stuff...
 
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Only 20%. Should be more than that, after all, science, logic and reason are incompatible with the left.

This post is not logical or reasonable.

I have a feeling you think science has a liberal bias....
 
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This post is not logical or reasonable.

I have a feeling you think science has a liberal bias....

Lets see, you think that "science, logic and reason are incompatible with the left" means that I believe science has a liberal bias? Taken any English comprehension classes lately?
 
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Lets see, you think that "science, logic and reason are incompatible with the left" means that I believe science has a liberal bias? Taken any English comprehension classes lately?

Actually, I think it means you dont understand science.
 
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In my experience with the social sciences, a lot of times it seems like they make a hypothesis built upon shaky research at best, or at worst a hypothesis's built on another hypothesis. Not to mention, a lot of time their research findings aren't quantifiable and subject to interpretation. Dark matter may be a hypothesis, but at least there its not open to interpretation and it has an equation ;).

By the sound of this you have been reading research in qualitative nature then. I suggest you seek out social science studies with quantitative or mixed designs. There shall be interpretations there as well of course, but you can knock yourself out with equations, numbers, and tested hypothesis to the point where the null hypothesis is either rejected or not.

Here is a quick intro about what I mean:

http://what-when-how.com/social-sciences/methodology-social-science/

I guess its unfair to call them pseudoscientists as that puts them in the category of straight up quackery, IE the homeopathists and astrologists of the world. But the word "science" should be left to the scientists and those who study the world without following the methods of science should really find another name. Social researchers sounds a lot better in my opinion.

Social science has methodology. It conducts experiments from posttest only all the way to the more robust models such as Solomon's 4 group experiments. It could use means between groups to seek out significant differences or it could even use regression analysis so as to predict an outcome by a certain measurable amount.

Social sciences main lean in quantitative studies is the the theory of probability though. Perhaps what you were going for is that social science is not an exact science maybe? Perhaps you meant that the word "science" should have been left to sciences that are exact alone?
 
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Can anyone explain why has the debate shifted to right vs left leaning to science? Are you guys blaming either side for these 20% of scientists that want to do research abroad?
 
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Would they have died otherwise? How many survived and lived longer lives? Again, you do not address the facts that our lifespans have increased substantially... that is all just random chance?

So, when you are laughing at "conservatives" and "right wing trolls" along with our defense of capitalism, how are you able to disguise, manipulate your own mind to close off all the prosperity world wide that comes with the self interest, the incentives, the freedoms concomitant with this system that allows private ownership and is based on voluntary exchange [ the genius of free markets as both parties walk away thinking they got the better deal ], as well as the self regulating nature of capitalism? The better nutrition world wide, the less hunger and starvation, the far wider disbursement of these medical assets world wide for self knowledge and better preventive care, earlier...

Sure wasn't a result of the communist regimes... and the socialists of Europe only under the protection of the American military and taxpayer...now that they are having to shoulder more and more of that burden themselves, even before, they are/were showing signs of imminent collapse... too heavy on that socialism stuff...

Do you have any studies that actually show that we are living longer ?

Again *laughs*

Capitalism is the economic system where everything is a made of a commodity. Our land, people, work, education, politics is made in a commodity under capitalism and corporatism. Defend it all you want.... I know the truth. Having health as a main priority in my life I know I don't want to be trick by sleazy doctors and corporations. I rather do my own research. The doctors, pharmacies, corporations understand business and they like making a lot of money. So Again when you walk into that cancer clinic... Just remember. Its just business Nothing personal.
 
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By the sound of this you have been reading research in qualitative nature then. I suggest you seek out social science studies with quantitative or mixed designs. There shall be interpretations there as well of course, but you can knock yourself out with equations, numbers, and tested hypothesis to the point where the null hypothesis is either rejected or not.

Here is a quick intro about what I mean:

METHODOLOGY (Social Science)



Social science has methodology. It conducts experiments from posttest only all the way to the more robust models such as Solomon's 4 group experiments. It could use means between groups to seek out significant differences or it could even use regression analysis so as to predict an outcome by a certain measurable amount.

Social sciences main lean in quantitative studies is the the theory of probability though. Perhaps what you were going for is that social science is not an exact science maybe? Perhaps you meant that the word "science" should have been left to sciences that are exact alone?

Well, I'm speaking from a limited perspective, but from what I have encountered in my literature, psychology, and sociology classes they were mostly qualitative. Quantitative analysis seemed to more or less be a fill in the blank for backing qualitative research, when in reality it should've been the other way around. It seemed especially bad in sociology where anyone who was a sociologist could make a completely wack claim and it was automatically given legitimacy. Their words and interpretations alone were accepted without question. Then again, that might just be sociology being a wackjob study, or maybe my teacher was just a wacko with an enormous selection bias. It just came across as jargoned political dogma rather then any honest pursuit of knowledge. Also, as a college student, I've been asked to participate in a large amount of social science researcher's surveys and some of the questions they are asking seem like a complete joke. Too often I notice that the results that these researchers are looking for are almost built into the study's design.

But anyways yes, I agree with the last statement. "Science" should be saved for exact science.
 
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Haha...laughs.

These books were to tell you the context of our medical culture, Specific information on the dangers of Chemo, surgery, and radiation are all over the internet.

Treating the Treatment: Toxicity of Cancer Chemotherapy

Many cancer chemotherapeutic agents can produce toxicity, even at the usual therapeutic doses.

CT findings of chemotherapy-induced toxicity: what... [Radiology. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI

It is imperative that radiologists be aware of these toxicities and that they learn to recognize the relevant findings so that they can provide a complete differential diagnosis and thus play an important role in patient care.

Carcinogenic effects of radiothera... [Oncology (Williston Park). 1999] - PubMed - NCBI

Such therapy may raise the risk of leukemia, particularly in association with certain types of adjuvant chemotherapy. Lung cancer risk is also increased, especially in cigarette smokers, and there are some indications that the risks of esophageal cancer and sarcomas may be elevated as well.

Cancer risks following diagnostic and therapeutic radiation exposure in children

Many studies of radiation for treatment of benign diseases and a few studies of diagnostic radiation exposure have yielded much of the information on the risk for radiation-related cancer in children. Although most cancers can be induced by radiation, these studies demonstrate dose-related increased risks of cancer of the thyroid, breasts and brain, non-melanoma skin cancer, and leukemia.

Intensive weekly chemotherapy is not effective i... [Br J Cancer. 1999] - PubMed - NCBI

The outcome of this intensive chemotherapy regimen does not support its use in pancreatic cancer.

even fox news is reporting the nonsense therapies that are only use to made money for companies.

Does chemotherapy do more harm than good? | Fox News Video

Pharmageddon

Page 52

" Millions of people have died during this period after having radical surgery, intense radiotherapy, or intense chemotherapy."

Its only is a matter of time before it will be obvious to the populations.

Why do you keep posting old studies and old ****?

It seems you have a misunderstanding of how chemotherapy works. ITS SUPPOSED TO BE CYTOTOXIC, that's the point, its more cytotoxic towards cancer cells than human cells. So for all its minuses, it at least gives the patient the chance to live.

Its better then doing nothing, which has a 100% fatality rate.
 
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So you send me links to previews of books that I cannot read fully. Where, specifically [ page number book name, etc...] did you get your declaration that doctors give treatments to sick people that actually make the patient sicker so they can make more money on them. You have read the books right? Why not tell me the pages in the previews that I can actually view where the information you indicate is there can be found and analyzed? After reading a few pages and the tables of contents, I did not get the impression that the books said anything of the sort.

I study history... and in 1900 the average lifespan was approximately age 43 in the United States. We now have almost doubled that. While correlation is not causation, it is obviously somehow closely associated. Something in our business/medical model is generating longer lives. Maybe its global warming/climate change... oh no, that is supposed to be bad for us...ummm...maybe it was all the world wars? No....that would kill us off earlier too...hmmmmm....oh, must be socialism/communism...but hey, they killed over a hundred million of their own people in the last 100 years...so no, that doesn't seem to fit either....oh what oh what could it be...??

Listen, he has nothing. Which is why when I responded to that exact same post here, he never responded. http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...d-minimum-wage-w-123-a-20.html#post1062258554 #198
 
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Well, I'm speaking from a limited perspective, but from what I have encountered in my literature, psychology, and sociology classes they were mostly qualitative. Quantitative analysis seemed to more or less be a fill in the blank for backing qualitative research, when in reality it should've been the other way around.

It is the other way around. Today qualitative social researchers complain that their research is not taken as seriously as a quantitative ones. The qualitative research is considered just like a topping cream I recall was the analogy. It is the quantitative one that mattered, but if qualitative study too was on the line with findings then all the better.

See it is like an addition, but not necessarily considered a critical one. It is a shame though for qualitative research provides such in depth reports and insights that you could be amazed.

What is your background if you do not mind me asking? What do you do? You are still anonymous and if you prefer you could PM me with this information. I am asking because I am thinking that we may not be far with our backgrounds after the exchange.

It seemed especially bad in sociology where anyone who was a sociologist could make a completely wack claim and it was automatically given legitimacy. Their words and interpretations alone were accepted without question. Then again, that might just be sociology being a wackjob study, or maybe my teacher was just a wacko with an enormous selection bias. It just came across as jargoned political dogma rather then any honest pursuit of knowledge.

There were times when I wanted it to be a political dogma to follow it blindly back at my younger ages. But nothing would stick for a dogma because such strong and sounding right claims would only stand as far as the data behind them suggested.

Psychology also has such theorists. Namely Freudian "unconscious" where one is completely unaware of their behavior or thoughts has not been found yet. Other more conscious levels such as the preconscious as well as its more cognitive form of "non-conscious" have been identified.

But not the one where one is completely oblivious about as it is the case with the psychoanalytic main concept - the unconscious or Id. Yet it stood as a political dogma for a long while and had various followers since.

Also, as a college student, I've been asked to participate in a large amount of social science researcher's surveys and some of the questions they are asking seem like a complete joke. Too often I notice that the results that these researchers are looking for are almost built into the study's design.

Some questions are more worthy than others. I have noticed that too. I guess they are covering the more common sensual ones before they could then build on those for more interesting questions perhaps?

But anyways yes, I agree with the last statement. "Science" should be saved for exact science.

That though would remove other disciplines that also use probability as their main way to explain phenomena. For instance Economics?

Or how about the ones that do not use probability at all. Should History classes be abandoned? Not all findings are accurate you know. Some data is deduced or otherwise assumed for they did not lived to our time (especially for ancient history).

How about Anthropology? Some data are found and then a lot is mainly interpreted on top of such data to provide links about ancient civilization.

These are not exact sciences neither. Should they be abandoned for it? How narrow would science be if left with only the exact ones: Chemistry, Math, Physics, and Biology?
 
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It is the other way around. Today qualitative social researchers complain that their research is not taken as seriously as a quantitative ones. The qualitative research is considered just like a topping cream I recall was the analogy. It is the quantitative one that mattered, but if qualitative study too was on the line with findings then all the better.

See it is like an addition, but not necessarily considered a critical one. It is a shame though for qualitative research provides such in depth reports and insights that you could be amazed.

What is your background if you do not mind me asking? What do you do? You are still anonymous and if you prefer you could PM me with this information. I am asking because I am thinking that we may not be far with our backgrounds after the exchange.



There were times when I wanted it to be a political dogma to follow it blindly back at my younger ages. But nothing would stick for a dogma because such strong and sounding right claims would only stand as far as the data behind them suggested.

Psychology also has such theorists. Namely Freudian "unconscious" where one is completely unaware of their behavior or thoughts has not been found yet. Other more conscious levels such as the preconscious as well as its more cognitive form of "non-conscious" have been identified.

But not the one where one is completely oblivious about as it is the case with the psychoanalytic main concept - the unconscious or Id. Yet it stood as a political dogma for a long while and had various followers since.



Some questions are more worthy than others. I have noticed that too. I guess they are covering the more common sensual ones before they could then build on those for more interesting questions perhaps?



That though would remove other disciplines that also use probability as their main way to explain phenomena. For instance Economics?

Or how about the ones that do not use probability at all. Should History classes be abandoned? Not all findings are accurate you know. Some data is deduced or otherwise assumed for they did not lived to our time (especially for ancient history).

How about Anthropology? Some data are found and then a lot is mainly interpreted on top of such data to provide links about ancient civilization.

These are not exact sciences neither. Should they be abandoned for it? How narrow would science be if left with only the exact ones: Chemistry, Math, Physics, and Biology?

I'm currently a Biomedical Sciences student at a University.

Yeah, Freud was a crackhead, but he was so crazy that people almost wanted to believe it.

As far as what is actually called science, I'd say the list should be pretty narrow. Doesn't mean those aren't worthwhile endeavors of research, I just don't think the term should be used too loosely. For example I have a huge respect for economicists and economic research (much more then I have for sociology), but I still don't think its an exact set in stone science. Even so, one of the major criticisms against economics is a lot of times it looks at things under too idealistic of conditions and doesn't always represent reality.
 
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I'm currently a Biomedical Sciences student at a University.

Yeah, Freud was a crackhead, but he was so crazy that people almost wanted to believe it.

Biomedical! I see where you are coming from wanting only exact sciences to stay and others to go with that ;)

As far as what is actually called science, I'd say the list should be pretty narrow. Doesn't mean those aren't worthwhile endeavors of research, I just don't think the term should be used too loosely. For example I have a huge respect for economicists and economic research (much more then I have for sociology), but I still don't think its an exact set in stone science. Even so, one of the major criticisms against economics is a lot of times it looks at things under too idealistic of conditions and doesn't always represent reality.

Yet it is among the most chosen disciplines that has the widest implications in the world. Wars are done to improve economics, lives are worsened due to economic downfall, countries influence other countries (i.e., recession, aid packages) economically, etc. All this based on probability theory just like social sciences uses.

The difference between the two disciplines may in fact be more scrutiny before a policy is made and acted upon. Social science cannot measure with economics in regards to similar world wide influence due in part to more scrutiny.
 
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Biomedical! I see where you are coming from wanting only exact sciences to stay and others to go with that ;)



Yet it is among the most chosen disciplines that has the widest implications in the world. Wars are done to improve economics, lives are worsened due to economic downfall, countries influence other countries (i.e., recession, aid packages) economically, etc. All this based on probability theory just like social sciences uses.

The difference between the two disciplines may in fact be more scrutiny before a policy is made and acted upon. Social science cannot measure with economics in regards to similar world wide influence due in part to more scrutiny.

Sigh, the truth comes out ;).

Yeah, I'd say that is probably why economics is one of the most well established and respected of the social sciences.... because it has the biggest implications for policy. I have no doubt that social research can be done extremely well and thorough when it uses solid methodology. But my bias against the social studies stems from being introduced to so much garbage research throughout my college tenure, that I simply cannot respect the fields until they start issuing some quality control.
 
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Sigh, the truth comes out ;).

Yeah, I'd say that is probably why economics is one of the most well established and respected of the social sciences.... because it has the biggest implications for policy. I have no doubt that social research can be done extremely well and thorough when it uses solid methodology. But my bias against the social studies stems from being introduced to so much garbage research throughout my college tenure, that I simply cannot respect the fields until they start issuing some quality control.

At the risk of perhaps influencing a career change, I would suggest you read some of the more recent findings so as to move from your position. Since you are in biomedical seek out psychology studies done with fMRI's for instance. Major interest there since this could be the proper instrument that psychology may have been lacking throughout its century.
 
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