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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Se...

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Hardly. If anything, some of the most anti-scientific people I know are left wing social activists.
    This is such perfect teabaggery, I couldn't have asked for more.

    Conservatives are hostile to science, scientists and science funding. And you blame librals. It's so typical.

    Who wants to cut science funding in the Congress? Come on, you can say it out loud.

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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    A few quick points:

    1. U.S. R&D accounts for a significantly smaller share of global R&D than it did a decade earlier: nsf.gov - Key Science and Engineering Indicators 2012 Digest - US National Science Foundation (NSF)
    2. R&D is investment that is crucial to innovation.
    3. Already, research has indicated that the rate of U.S. innovation is slowing.
    4. Slower innovation means reduced competitivenes relative to the rest of the world. That translates into a smaller economy and fewer jobs than might otherwise be the case.

    If the brain drain cited at the beginning of this thread materializes, and barriers to relocation overseas have probably never been lower, it will have an unmistakable and adverse long-term impact on the United States.
    But of course, the scorched-earth anti-science, anti-gummit policies of conservatives are blithely unconcerned about this. That's another trait of conservatism's anti-intellectualism: contempt for the future.

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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Are you really that ignorant? I don't think we have a majority black state in the country. That doesn't dispute the fact that blacks make up a higher % of the population in some states then others, and a large number of those states are in the south.......


    Because Chicago is only one city, and you're looking at the STATE ranking for murder rates. The rest of Illinois is relatively more safe, hence why they have a lower rating. But surely you knew that.....
    All true - I was giving you a very simplistic argument. Now I'll give you the Reader's Digest version of the real reasons why it's that way, and why conservatives like yourself cannot seem to get past the thought that "well, they're black - and that's why there's more in prison."

    I can't count the times I've heard conservatives claim, "Well, they're all equal with everyone else now and have been that way for nearly fifty years, so it can't be racist to say that it's their fault!"

    It's as if y'all somehow think that all America's racism ended the day LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act - yep, once he signed, it all just magically ended, huh?

    Here's a clue - it hasn't, not by a long shot.

    But the thing is, you don't take an entire people, keep them as slaves for centuries, then 'free' them but keep them as second-class citizens for another century, and then expect that when they're FINALLY given equal rights but STILL are mostly live in very poor areas with second-rate schooling, that (1) they'll magically transform into modern, well-educated, low-crime suburbanites, or (2) that those who hated them would suddenly stop hating them, or would somehow refrain from teaching their kids and grandkids how lazy and no-good that blacks are: "See how many of them don't have good jobs and are in prison? They're just n**gers, that's all". The very fact that YOU are pointing to the higher proportion in prison shows that your own outlook has been poisoned by this illogic in one form or another. The racists didn't go away - they just had to find different ways to Keep The Black Man Down - see the "White Citizens Council" (started by a neighbor of mine - Senator James O. Eastland, who was twice president pro-tem, and was the strongest racist in America for two generations). So even though blacks had been granted equality, they still had very far to go to actually become equal...and there were - are - still many people who don't want them to ever become truly equal to the rest of us.

    And those 'different ways' are still going on - see the weekly race-baiting by conservative pundits. It doesn't mean that all or even most Republicans are racist, but it DOES mean that conservatives generally TOLERATE racists - otherwise, if your fellow conservatives didn't tolerate the race-baiting, those same pundits wouldn't be on the air. Conversely, is there a single - even ONE - major liberal pundit who uses race-baiting attacks? Even one?

    That, sir, is why when one looks at pictures of Republican - and particularly Tea Party - rallies, they're all almost completely lily-white...whereas Democratic rallies are truly multiracial, multicultural, multiethnic. One side rejects the differences - and the other side truly embraces them.

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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    All true - I was giving you a very simplistic argument. Now I'll give you the Reader's Digest version of the real reasons why it's that way, and why conservatives like yourself cannot seem to get past the thought that "well, they're black - and that's why there's more in prison."

    I can't count the times I've heard conservatives claim, "Well, they're all equal with everyone else now and have been that way for nearly fifty years, so it can't be racist to say that it's their fault!"

    It's as if y'all somehow think that all America's racism ended the day LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act - yep, once he signed, it all just magically ended, huh?

    Here's a clue - it hasn't, not by a long shot.

    But the thing is, you don't take an entire people, keep them as slaves for centuries, then 'free' them but keep them as second-class citizens for another century, and then expect that when they're FINALLY given equal rights but STILL are mostly live in very poor areas with second-rate schooling, that (1) they'll magically transform into modern, well-educated, low-crime suburbanites, or (2) that those who hated them would suddenly stop hating them, or would somehow refrain from teaching their kids and grandkids how lazy and no-good that blacks are: "See how many of them don't have good jobs and are in prison? They're just n**gers, that's all". The very fact that YOU are pointing to the higher proportion in prison shows that your own outlook has been poisoned by this illogic in one form or another. The racists didn't go away - they just had to find different ways to Keep The Black Man Down - see the "White Citizens Council" (started by a neighbor of mine - Senator James O. Eastland, who was twice president pro-tem, and was the strongest racist in America for two generations). So even though blacks had been granted equality, they still had very far to go to actually become equal...and there were - are - still many people who don't want them to ever become truly equal to the rest of us.

    And those 'different ways' are still going on - see the weekly race-baiting by conservative pundits. It doesn't mean that all or even most Republicans are racist, but it DOES mean that conservatives generally TOLERATE racists - otherwise, if your fellow conservatives didn't tolerate the race-baiting, those same pundits wouldn't be on the air. Conversely, is there a single - even ONE - major liberal pundit who uses race-baiting attacks? Even one?

    That, sir, is why when one looks at pictures of Republican - and particularly Tea Party - rallies, they're all almost completely lily-white...whereas Democratic rallies are truly multiracial, multicultural, multiethnic. One side rejects the differences - and the other side truly embraces them.
    I see you not only believe in spreading the wealth, but spreading the blame as well. Well I have news for you buddy. 20% of blacks will end up in prison in some point in their life, which means 80% of them won't. Do those 20% somehow just have it sooooo much worse then everyone else? Things don't just change overnight in this country, you are right. But its damn 50 years later, eventually that excuse is going to wear itself thin, no? I think you need to have a re-reawakening and realize that there are numerous other factors besides racism that are keeping blacks in poverty. In fact, I'll even go to say that racism is probably the least significant of those factors at this point. It certainly isn't as significant as drugs, single parent homes, and culture are.

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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Se...

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    This is such perfect teabaggery, I couldn't have asked for more.

    Conservatives are hostile to science, scientists and science funding. And you blame librals. It's so typical.

    Who wants to cut science funding in the Congress? Come on, you can say it out loud.
    Which side came up with abomination that is post-modernism? Hint, it isn't the teabaggers.

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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving... Due In Part To Sequestrat[W

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    If its so horrible over here, then why did the other 80+% of them not contemplate going overseas? Oh, and lets not be dishonest with ourselves.

    Flashback - Obama: I will veto any effort to get rid of sequestration! - YouTube

    I will veto any effort to get rid of those automatic spending cuts
    Sound familiar?

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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    No, you didn't: you're just another pretentious tea party knownothing who can't spell.
    Is that a personal attack????? Speaking of someone spelling.
    Liberals - Punish the Successful, Reward the Unsuccessful
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    Obama's legacy - President Donald Trump

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