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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Oooooh, wow, the guy gave me a NEWSFLASH!

    In fact, HERE's a list of states ordered by percentage of people in prison. And guess what - the thirteen states with the highest percentages are ALL red states...and none of those states are majority-black. And HERE's a list of states ordered by homicide rate. And guess what - thirteen out of the top fifteen were ALL red states...and none of these states are majority-black.

    Here's a Really Difficult Question for you: you know how bad the murder rate in Chicago is, right? I mean, you obviously listen to right-wing radio a lot, and they're telling you almost every day how deadly it is to spend the night in Chicago, right? So if Chicago - which has such a high percentage of blacks, remember - why is it that the state of Illinois is only eleventh on the list of states by homicide rate, and all but one of the states with higher homicide rates are not-nearly-as-black-as-Chicago RED states, hm? In fact, if you'll look, the murder rate in Louisiana is TWICE that of Illinois!

    Guy, when it comes to race, I know more than most whites. Do you know why part of my name is 'Contrarian'? Because demographically-speaking, I SHOULD be a far-right gun-nut who shares your opinion about blacks...but I'm not - I'm a liberal and I'm proud of it! It's because I am a white male, retired Navy, raised (moderately) racist in the Mississippi Delta...I was the classic White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, and I knew every n-word joke in the book. But after traveling the world I was forced to unlearn so much of what I'd been taught, and I began to see through the racism I'd been taught. And I now know that racism for what it really is: fear of those who look different. It's the same as every other prejudice - against ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual preference...it's ALL nothing more than FEAR of those who are different.

    Yeah, yeah, I know, you'll say you ain't a-skeeered a-nuthin! But if you are racist, you are afraid to the same degree to which you are racist - it goes hand-in-hand. Same goes for all the other phobias you have.
    You make a lot of assumptions, buddy. All I stated are facts. It ain't conservatives filling up our prisons. It is primarily bastards. The fact that blacks are disproportionately bastards is why they are disproportionately imprisoned. I suggest if you care about Americans of all colors ya would support policies aimed at reducing the bastardization rate. If I had fear of those who looked different I would be scared of my wife and son. The fact is it is liberal policies that have done to the black family what slavery and Jim Crow could not do; remove the father from 7 out of 10 African-American homes. Now go back to your soft bigotry of low expectations.

    Nutcase liberals seem to think just because they are WASP and racist that the rest of us WASPs are.Of course I am Catholic as is the Filipina wife and White Filipino son.

    I can actually debate issues without labeling people racist or liberal or anything else. Obviously white boy Glen cannot. Labeling is the most unintellectual form of debate.
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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Delaware are "Bible Belt" States? Why is it that a liberal blue state, New Mexico leads the nation in teen pregnancy?

    And granted DC isn't a state but did you bother to look at their rate? Why is it that the most liberal place has a teen pregnancy rate that dwarfs all states?
    Ah. So because New Mexico tops the list on teenage pregnancy, that means you can ignore the rest of the top fifteen? That's a logical fallacy known as "poisoning the well" - look it up sometime. Here, I'll post the top fifteen for you:

    1. New Mexico - 93/1,000
    2. Mississippi - 90/1,000
    3. Texas - 85/1,000
    4. Nevada - 84/1,000
    5. Arkansas - 82/1,000
    6. Arizona - 82/1,000
    7. Delaware - 81/1,000
    8. Louisiana - 80/1,000
    9. Oklahoma - 80/1,000
    10. Georgia - 78/1,000
    11. South Carolina - 76/1,000
    12. Hawaii - 76/1,000
    13. Tennessee - 76/1,000
    14. Alabama - 73/1,000
    15. Florida - 73/1,000

    Sooo...TWELVE out of the top fifteen states when it comes to teen pregnancy are RED states. And you said that New Mexico's rate "dwarfs" all states? Since when does 93/1000 "dwarf" 90/1000?

    And - according to the reference - ALL of the 10 states with the highest divorce rates are RED states.

    Man, truth hurts, don't it? But never fear - I'm sure you'll find a way to ignore the facts.

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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Oooooh, wow, the guy gave me a NEWSFLASH!

    In fact, HERE's a list of states ordered by percentage of people in prison. And guess what - the thirteen states with the highest percentages are ALL red states...and none of those states are majority-black. And HERE's a list of states ordered by homicide rate. And guess what - thirteen out of the top fifteen were ALL red states...and none of these states are majority-black.

    Here's a Really Difficult Question for you: you know how bad the murder rate in Chicago is, right? I mean, you obviously listen to right-wing radio a lot, and they're telling you almost every day how deadly it is to spend the night in Chicago, right? So if Chicago - which has such a high percentage of blacks, remember - why is it that the state of Illinois is only eleventh on the list of states by homicide rate, and all but one of the states with higher homicide rates are not-nearly-as-black-as-Chicago RED states, hm? In fact, if you'll look, the murder rate in Louisiana is TWICE that of Illinois!

    Guy, when it comes to race, I know more than most whites. Do you know why part of my name is 'Contrarian'? Because demographically-speaking, I SHOULD be a far-right gun-nut who shares your opinion about blacks...but I'm not - I'm a liberal and I'm proud of it! It's because I am a white male, retired Navy, raised (moderately) racist in the Mississippi Delta...I was the classic White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, and I knew every n-word joke in the book. But after traveling the world I was forced to unlearn so much of what I'd been taught, and I began to see through the racism I'd been taught. And I now know that racism for what it really is: fear of those who look different. It's the same as every other prejudice - against ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual preference...it's ALL nothing more than FEAR of those who are different.

    Yeah, yeah, I know, you'll say you ain't a-skeeered a-nuthin! But if you are racist, you are afraid to the same degree to which you are racist - it goes hand-in-hand. Same goes for all the other phobias you have.
    Newsflash: No state has a majority black population this does not mean that states with a higher percentage of blacks do not tend to have higher homicide rates. This is pretty simple, folks. It ain't conservatives filling up our prisons.

    You make a lot of assumptions, buddy. All I stated are facts. It ain't conservatives filling up our prisons. It is primarily bastards. The fact that blacks are disproportionately bastards is why they are disproportionately imprisoned. I suggest if you care about Americans of all colors ya would support policies aimed at reducing the bastardization rate. If I had fear of those who looked different I would be scared of my wife and son. The fact is it is liberal policies that have done to the black family what slavery and Jim Crow could not do; remove the father from 7 out of 10 African-American homes. Now go back to your soft bigotry of low expectations.

    Nutcase liberals seem to think just because they are WASP and racist that the rest of us WASPs are.Of course I am Catholic as is the Filipina wife and White Filipino son.
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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I really don't know what you are talking about. I'm talking about me. I support science wholeheartily. Social science research, not so much (anything that isn't science qualifies as pseudo-scientific by definition.)

    If liberals and progressives would stop their hatred of capitalism and love of dependency, I would probably be the biggest liberal out there. But they haven't so I'm "slightly conservative."
    You support science wholeheartedly? So, since 98% of all climatologists support AGW, and 90% of all scientists support AGW, and every single major national scientific organization on the planet supports AGW, I'm sure you do, too. Glad to hear it. But you're sure the exception when it comes to the conservative rule.

    And if you love capitalism, go to China - they're MUCH more capitalist than we are. The same goes for most third-world nations - money talks, BS walks, and all that.

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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Ah. So because New Mexico tops the list on teenage pregnancy, that means you can ignore the rest of the top fifteen? That's a logical fallacy known as "poisoning the well" - look it up sometime. Here, I'll post the top fifteen for you:

    1. New Mexico - 93/1,000
    2. Mississippi - 90/1,000
    3. Texas - 85/1,000
    4. Nevada - 84/1,000
    5. Arkansas - 82/1,000
    6. Arizona - 82/1,000
    7. Delaware - 81/1,000
    8. Louisiana - 80/1,000
    9. Oklahoma - 80/1,000
    10. Georgia - 78/1,000
    11. South Carolina - 76/1,000
    12. Hawaii - 76/1,000
    13. Tennessee - 76/1,000
    14. Alabama - 73/1,000
    15. Florida - 73/1,000

    Sooo...TWELVE out of the top fifteen states when it comes to teen pregnancy are RED states. And you said that New Mexico's rate "dwarfs" all states? Since when does 93/1000 "dwarf" 90/1000?

    And - according to the reference - ALL of the 10 states with the highest divorce rates are RED states.

    Man, truth hurts, don't it? But never fear - I'm sure you'll find a way to ignore the facts.

    States by percentage of black population:

    1 Mississippi 1,074,200 37.30%
    2 Louisiana 1,452,396 31.98%
    3 Georgia 2,950,435 30.02%
    4 Maryland 1,700,298 29.44%
    5 South Carolina 1,290,684 28.48%
    6 Alabama 1,251,311 26.38%
    7 North Carolina 2,048,628 21.60%
    8 Delaware 191,814 20.95%
    9 Virginia 1,551,399 19.91%
    10 Tennessee 1,055,689 16.78%
    11 Florida 2,999,862 15.91%
    12 Arkansas 449,895 15.76%
    13 New York 3,073,800 15.18%
    14 Illinois 1,866,414 14.88%
    15 New Jersey 1,204,826 14.46%

    10 out of 15 are in the top 15 homicide rate states. Just the facts.
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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Ah. So because New Mexico tops the list on teenage pregnancy, that means you can ignore the rest of the top fifteen? That's a logical fallacy known as "poisoning the well" - look it up sometime. Here, I'll post the top fifteen for you:

    1. New Mexico - 93/1,000
    2. Mississippi - 90/1,000
    3. Texas - 85/1,000
    4. Nevada - 84/1,000
    5. Arkansas - 82/1,000
    6. Arizona - 82/1,000
    7. Delaware - 81/1,000
    8. Louisiana - 80/1,000
    9. Oklahoma - 80/1,000
    10. Georgia - 78/1,000
    11. South Carolina - 76/1,000
    12. Hawaii - 76/1,000
    13. Tennessee - 76/1,000
    14. Alabama - 73/1,000
    15. Florida - 73/1,000

    Sooo...TWELVE out of the top fifteen states when it comes to teen pregnancy are RED states. And you said that New Mexico's rate "dwarfs" all states? Since when does 93/1000 "dwarf" 90/1000?

    And - according to the reference - ALL of the 10 states with the highest divorce rates are RED states.

    Man, truth hurts, don't it? But never fear - I'm sure you'll find a way to ignore the facts.
    Yes. Sometimes the truth does hurt. And the truth is, you have trouble reading.

    Re-read what I posted. In fact, being you have trouble reading, maybe you should read it three or four times. Maybe, just maybe it will sink in then.

    Since when is DC, New Mexico? That's a new twist, even for a liberal.

    Four of the top ten states don't meet whatever silly point you are trying to make to begin with. You did ignore that.

    Oh well. Practice your reading skills and better luck next time.
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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Yes. Sometimes the truth does hurt. And the truth is, you have trouble reading. Re-read what I posted. In fact, being you have trouble reading, maybe you should read it three or four times. Maybe, just maybe it will sink in then. Since when is DC, New Mexico? That's a new twist, even for a liberal.Four of the top ten states don't meet whatever silly point you are trying to make to begin with. You did ignore that. Oh well. Practice your reading skills and better luck next time.
    I'm not certain what you and GC are getting on about, but the Deep South is generally worse off than the rest of the United States in terms of human development indices. The divorce and teen birth rates, but also life expectancy, poverty, education attainment, median income, healthcare access, obesity and STD rates.

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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    I'm not certain what you and GC are getting on about, but the Deep South is generally worse off than the rest of the United States in terms of human development indices. The divorce and teen birth rates, but also life expectancy, poverty, education attainment, median income, healthcare access, obesity and STD rates.
    Yes, 220 years of being discriminated against by the federal government has taken a toll on the South.
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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    another silly HOJ thread involving moronic attacks on conservatives. Move on, nothing to see, hold your nose, the stench is awful



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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    Yo HoJo Why does the govt need to pay for research??
    Marie Currie, thomas Edison, Henry Ford didn"t have the
    govt subsidising their research,why does today's bunch
    need subsidies???
    Currie did almost all of her research at Sorbonne, which is public.

    Ford didn't invent the car, he just improved production. Edison did the same with the light bulb.
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