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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    The results aren't completely reproducible, and its nearly impossible to get a total isolation of the variables in question.
    Are all variables in question isolated while venturing into the unknown of say black matter and dark energy?
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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by keith View Post
    Don't see why anyone would have a great interest in producing such a study, probably one has not been done.
    Concerned citizens that ask important questions whether researchers are biased would be interested in conducting such a study for one. Then it is the ethical review board for sure. How about the stakeholders whom really want to know what is going on rather than manipulate the findings?

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    How many trials have you watched where both the defense and prosecuter present "experts" sometimes social scientists, sometimes physical scientists, who strongly disagree?
    I have seen a few. If scientists of various fields do not agree on certain terms that means that the lawyer managed to make most disputed areas as an issue to begin with. The other party should have emphasized areas where there is less dispute.

    You see data builds and either suggests in favor of one or the other positions or there is a complete third unknown explanation (sometimes middle ground) for the two. That may not mean that either or both are wrong or right.

    Some things take time to explain satisfactorily. But see what happened with the nature versus nurture social scientific dispute for instance. It found an explanatory common ground.

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    I suggest everyone look at both the author of the studies and the funder of the studies and ask if they have an agenda and then look for biases in such studies.
    Agreed. This should be done as such and if concerns are legitimate even wider steps should be taken. If the researcher has conducted unethical research even after all they went through to obtain the degree in the first place I even suggest stripping the one from titles, licenses, jobs, etc, as penalty.

    Quote Originally Posted by keith View Post
    People can produce statistics that show pretty much whatever they want to show.
    This cannot hold when the same study is reproduced, critically examined, and otherwise underwent the standard scientific scrutiny though! What you speak of is known as Beta error in social science. There are ways to counter as mentioned above.
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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

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    Are all variables in question isolated while venturing into the unknown of say black matter and dark energy?
    No, and that is why it is only a hypothesis and not a theory. It's an attempt to "fill in the blanks" so to speak.

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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    No, and that is why it is only a hypothesis and not a theory. It's an attempt to "fill in the blanks" so to speak.
    I understand that. But the issue was if variables cannot be completely isolated then that causes a science to become a pseudo-science. See I asked why social sciences are pseudo-sciences and I had a response from you that it was because variables could not be completely isolated.

    On such premises then perhaps astronomy, quantum mechanics, etc, could also be pseudo-sciences then? They do not have all variables covered while venturing into the unknowns of dark matter and dark energy neither.
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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Might you try to make some sense...or is that just something...that...you... just...cannot...bring yourself to actually do?

    You see... Making money in the medical Industry is hard when no one is sick. So what do they do ? Instead of giving them a treatment that actually works........... You give a treatment that is useless. But the real money is made when the treatment actually makes cancer and other diseases worse. So you have a cycle, someone gets cancer.... Give them Chemo,radiation, and/or surgery and BOOM ! That "patient" is yours for a life time.

    Its actually a very good business strategy.... Unless of course...if you are the patient.


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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    You see... Making money in the medical Industry is hard when no one is sick. So what do they do ? Instead of giving them a treatment that actually works........... You give a treatment that is useless. But the real money is made when the treatment actually makes cancer and other diseases worse. So you have a cycle, someone gets cancer.... Give them Chemo,radiation, and/or surgery and BOOM ! That "patient" is yours for a life time.

    Its actually a very good business strategy.... Unless of course...if you are the patient.


    I laugh at conservatives, right wing trolls on how they defend business and free market. Nothing but Ignorance...
    Care to back any of that up with some evidence?
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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    You see... Making money in the medical Industry is hard when no one is sick. So what do they do ? Instead of giving them a treatment that actually works........... You give a treatment that is useless. But the real money is made when the treatment actually makes cancer and other diseases worse. So you have a cycle, someone gets cancer.... Give them Chemo,radiation, and/or surgery and BOOM ! That "patient" is yours for a life time.

    Its actually a very good business strategy.... Unless of course...if you are the patient.


    I laugh at conservatives, right wing trolls on how they defend business and free market. Nothing but Ignorance...
    Speaking of ignorance, this post takes the cake.
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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

    I like how the right wingers are just complaining about global warming in this thread. Not like there are other (most) scientific questions to explore. No new technology to develop. No diseases to cure. No understanding of the cosmos to unlock. Nope, none of that.

    An immunologist friend of mine and her three colleagues all lost funding because of the sequester. We don't need to develop better vaccines, right?
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    Re: Nearly 20 Percent Of Scientists Contemplate Moving Overseas Due In Part To Seques

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    Speaking of ignorance, this post takes the cake.
    Haha..... Let me know how chemo goes.
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