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    Re: Obama ready to move on Syria without allies

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Lame?

    I think we both have different "ideas" as to the United States Constitution.... I see it as a power that limits government and you see it as a power that empowers government...

    The only reason why you believe your **** is because you just "take the word" of people you "agree with" while I study and embrace...

    In your mind the "constitution" can be anything you want it to be -- not what it is not the line or precedent the document sets...

    No I'm not giving you a break...

    When you're wrong - you're wrong.
    And it's the same constitution that makes clear that it is Congress that declares war, not the president. ONLY if and when our country is under attack or imminent threat of attack can the president act alone, but even then he is required to follow up with congress.

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    Re: Obama ready to move on Syria without allies

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I thought with the election of Obama the world was supposed to love us. Bush got about 50 nations to go along with him in Iraq.
    Perhaps this time around it's a question of Fool Me once, etc?

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    Re: Obama ready to move on Syria without allies

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    ill probably get deployed again.
    I hope not.
    We dont need any more war dead.

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    Re: Obama ready to move on Syria without allies

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Hope he does it....
    Why, whats the up side to the US firing on a nation involved in its own civil war?

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    Re: Obama ready to move on Syria without allies

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more: Obama ready to move on Syria without allies - The Hill's Global Affairs

    Looks like unfortunately the UK's vote didnt change things. Looks like we are going in alone. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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    Re: Obama ready to move on Syria without allies

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Why, whats the up side to the US firing on a nation involved in its own civil war?
    The only upside I can see is that since Obama put his credibility and, thus, the credibility of the United States on the line when he made his ill-considered statement about a "red line," bombing Syria would keep his and our credibility in tact. Aside from that, I don't see any real benefit.

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    Re: Obama ready to move on Syria without allies

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    The only upside I can see is that since Obama put his credibility and, thus, the credibility of the United States on the line when he made his ill-considered statement about a "red line," bombing Syria would keep his and our credibility in tact. Aside from that, I don't see any real benefit.
    His credibilty is worth peoples lives? Millions of dollars for hardware?
    He is looking like a bully that ran off at the mouth and the other guy ignored him.
    Now he has to go farther and take a swing and start the fight that he really didnt want to.
    I will put cold hard cash down that this will not end well.

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    Re: Obama ready to move on Syria without allies

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    The only upside I can see is that since Obama put his credibility and, thus, the credibility of the United States on the line when he made his ill-considered statement about a "red line," bombing Syria would keep his and our credibility in tact. Aside from that, I don't see any real benefit.

    Bombing a country that HAS NOT ATTACKED US does nothing to shore up our credibility.

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    Re: Obama ready to move on Syria without allies

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Bombing a country that HAS NOT ATTACKED US does nothing to shore up our credibility.
    Pretty much sums it up.
    I still feel like Obama wants HIS war. Bush's hand me down wars just dont solidify his name in the books as a leader.
    This is pure narcissism.
    If he pushes this and there is ANY retaliaton, the blood will be on his hands.

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    Re: Obama ready to move on Syria without allies

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Pretty much sums it up.
    I still feel like Obama wants HIS war. Bush's hand me down wars just dont solidify his name in the books as a leader.
    This is pure narcissism.
    If he pushes this and there is ANY retaliaton, the blood will be on his hands.
    I don't know, I suppose its possible that its all Obama by himself. But considering he has delayed and delayed any unauthorised action for nearly three years, that seems unlikely. John McCains and Lindsey Graham's lust for action as well as lots of other neocons shows there are plenty besides Obama pushing for this. But most importantly of all, regime change has been a stated goal of Washington for years now, this transcends presidencies, and despite Washington's assurances yesterday that this was not about regime change, Obama stated multiple times at the beginning of the Syrian conflict, that Assad has got to go!

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