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Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

Gimmesometruth said:
You have posted everything from whacked out theories about "Russia would get TOTAL CONTROL OF OPEC" to "Russia is offered arms deal"......so tell me, who is "talking out of both sides of his mouth"?

It isn't me.

The first clue should have been the idea that Russia could "control OPEC", it is a group of producers, and Russia cannot control that.
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No I posted up any news sources that said Putin said he was going to attack Saudi Arabia.....then I put the deal the Saud gave Putin from Reuters. Plus Earlier Cohen already stated the Russians were in a Frenzy. As this was asked if it was real in another thread. Which as usual you had no part in. Now we know that's its True Russia has threatened the Saudis. Now you can think whatever you like in that head of yours.

Your First clue should have been to know about what you are talking about in the first place. Before even trying to jump in from the end.
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MMC said:
Here is one Russian site.....I don't know many. Plus Cohen already stated Moscow was in a frenzy. The Russian Lower parliament was talking about War. Not to mention in the UK thread this morning I had up the part about the Egyptians offering the Russians a military base in Egypt.

If we hit Syria.....Assad will have people dedicated to planting themselves Right where all his important installations are. Those being fixed.

Saudi Arabia threatens Russia with Olympic Terror #saudi's actually threaten #Russia #PUTIN w/ #terrorism #Olympics : rougek67
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This is bull****, no country would ever flat out say they control terrorist groups and threaten to use them offensively against another nation, especially not Saudi Arabia which has way way way too much to loose and has almost never been overtly hostile to anyone
 
Wiseone said:
This is bull****, no country would ever flat out say they control terrorist groups and threaten to use them offensively against another nation, especially not Saudi Arabia which has way way way too much to loose and has almost never been overtly hostile to anyone
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Really Wiseone.....now you sound like another talking about conspiracy crap.

Saudi Arabia Offers Russia Deal For Backing Off Assad Support

Saudi Arabia has offered Russia economic incentives including a major arms deal and a pledge not to challenge Russian gas sales if Moscow scales back support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Middle East sources and Western diplomats said on Wednesday.

The proposed deal between two of the leading power brokers in Syria's devastating civil war was set out by Saudi intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow last week, they said.

Syrian opposition sources close to Saudi Arabia said Prince Bandar offered to buy up to $15 billion of Russian weapons as well as ensuring that Gulf gas would not threaten Russia's position as a main gas supplier to Europe.

In return, Saudi Arabia wanted Moscow to ease its strong support of Assad and agree not to block any future Security Council Resolution on Syria, they said.

A Gulf source familiar with the matter confirmed that Prince Bandar offered to buy large quantities of arms from Russia, but that no cash amount was specified in the talks.

One Lebanese politician close to Saudi Arabia said the meeting between Bandar and Putin lasted four hours. "The Saudis were elated about the outcome of the meeting," said the source, without elaborating.....snip


Saudi Arabia Offers Russia Deal For Backing Off Assad Support


Looks like Huff Po- got it from Rueters too. Like I said.
 
German guy said:
Okay, so there seems to be the possibility this time that the entire powder keg blows up this time. Nice.

Oh, and I really don't think this is an Dem vs. Rep thing. Obama just continues what Bush started. Same kind of risk-taking in the Middle East, and no problem whatsoever with pissing off Russia.

I just hope they know what they're doing. I really hope that.
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Good afternoon, German guy! :2wave:

You and millions of others, including me, have that same hope! :thumbs:
 
Wiseone said:
This is bull****, no country would ever flat out say they control terrorist groups and threaten to use them offensively against another nation, especially not Saudi Arabia which has way way way too much to loose and has almost never been overtly hostile to anyone
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15 Saudi Arabians on 9/11!!
 
Wiseone said:
This is bull****, no country would ever flat out say they control terrorist groups and threaten to use them offensively against another nation, especially not Saudi Arabia which has way way way too much to loose and has almost never been overtly hostile to anyone
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Saudi Princes are not exactly my area of knowledge, so maybe I am wrong...
But I do not think a Saudi Prince qualifies as "A Country".
They have been known to dabble in all sorts of things, even drug enterprises.
I do not think when one speaks that he speaks for the King. And that in itself makes it entirely possible that one might say anything at all, or be involved with anything at all.
Isn't there is a serious undercurrent in Saudi Arabia of radicalism and hatred towards anything non Islamic?
 
Montecresto said:
15 Saudi Arabians on 9/11!!
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Heya Monte.....seems there was an Effort to bribe the Russians. Now seem to think cuz one source they would control OPEC. Which we know that's not true. What they did say was they wouldn't challenge Russian Gas Sales. That's what I am getting from the main Media Sources. But it is clear that Russia has threatened Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia Tries to Bribe Russia to Abandon Syria


Saudi Arabia has offered Russia a range of incentives in an attempt to bribe Moscow into abandoning their support for the Syrian government.

Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the head of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence services, reportedly set out his country’s offer during a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow last week. It includes a major purchase of Russian military technology and a promise not to challenge Russian gas sales – both dependent on Russia ending its support for the government of President Assad.

Read more at Saudi Arabia Tries to Bribe Russia to Abandon Syria | World News Curator
 
Montecresto said:
15 Saudi Arabians on 9/11!!
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Awesome co inky dink. And a Pakistani ISI paymaster named Gen. Mahmoud for Mohammed Atta, and the Doctor that finked out OBL's hiding place being tried for treason in Pakistan. So, jump right out there and kick Afghanistan's ass and ramp up that poppy production. Absolutely awesome co inky dink. Some stories always have room for change. Sorta like Syria. Russians provided digital imagery of rebel rocket attacks causing the chemical weapons attacks to the UN. Probably forgot to change the film in their digital camera, hehe. Gonna be another fable to compare with the Warren Commission report, I'm sure.
 
MMC said:
No I posted up any news sources that said Putin said he was going to attack Saudi Arabia.....then I put the deal the Saud gave Putin from Reuters. Plus Earlier Cohen already stated the Russians were in a Frenzy. As this was asked if it was real in another thread. Which as usual you had no part in. Now we know that's its True Russia has threatened the Saudis. Now you can think whatever you like in that head of yours.
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You are posting anything and everything, you always do, and it doesn't matter if the articles contradict or make absolutely no sense at all, you will grb it nd post it.....but when it comes to actually having to say something yourself, to analyze or actually interpret the articles, that is when we see the real you....and it is not pretty. So go on again and tell me how I talk out of both side of my mouth while you throw anything and everything against the wall to see what sticks.

Your First clue should have been to know about what you are talking about in the first place. Before even trying to jump in from the end.
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You haven't countered anything I have said in Saudi/Russian relations......and news flash.....every new posts is placed at the end of any current discussion....f'n duh.
 
Montecresto said:
15 Saudi Arabians on 9/11!!
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And McVeigh was an American citizen, did our own government order him to blow up the OKC building? No. Keep the stupid generalizations to yourself, the actions of a few Saudis doesn't speak for the policy of the Saudi government.

MMC said:
Really Wiseone.....now you sound like another talking about conspiracy crap.

Saudi Arabia Offers Russia Deal For Backing Off Assad Support

Saudi Arabia has offered Russia economic incentives including a major arms deal and a pledge not to challenge Russian gas sales if Moscow scales back support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Middle East sources and Western diplomats said on Wednesday.

The proposed deal between two of the leading power brokers in Syria's devastating civil war was set out by Saudi intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan at a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow last week, they said.

Syrian opposition sources close to Saudi Arabia said Prince Bandar offered to buy up to $15 billion of Russian weapons as well as ensuring that Gulf gas would not threaten Russia's position as a main gas supplier to Europe.

In return, Saudi Arabia wanted Moscow to ease its strong support of Assad and agree not to block any future Security Council Resolution on Syria, they said.

A Gulf source familiar with the matter confirmed that Prince Bandar offered to buy large quantities of arms from Russia, but that no cash amount was specified in the talks.

One Lebanese politician close to Saudi Arabia said the meeting between Bandar and Putin lasted four hours. "The Saudis were elated about the outcome of the meeting," said the source, without elaborating.....snip


Saudi Arabia Offers Russia Deal For Backing Off Assad Support


Looks like Huff Po- got it from Rueters too. Like I said.
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That source has no sources, I'm sorry but nameless sources don't mean anything. That story quotes "Syrian opposition sources," "A Gulf source," and "One Lebanese politician" not great material.
 
Ben K. said:
Well, there are certainly mainstream sources for the veiled threat by Saudi, if not for Putins response. Totally unacceptable behaviour by the Saudis if true. And hey, attacking Saudi would drive up oil prices so it's a good counter play by Putin.
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Great point! :thumbs: Maybe the recent predictions of people having to pay $6 to $7 a gallon for gas were not so far off the mark! :shock:

Good afternoon, Ben K. :2wave:
 
Wiseone said:
And McVeigh was an American citizen, did our own government order him to blow up the OKC building? No. Keep the stupid generalizations to yourself, the actions of a few Saudis doesn't speak for the policy of the Saudi government.



That source has no sources, I'm sorry but nameless sources don't mean anything. That story quotes "Syrian opposition sources," "A Gulf source," and "One Lebanese politician" not great material.
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Uhm.....almost all of the US newsources and Western Media say nameless Official. Or not Authorized. So you can try and work ya way round that too. :roll:
 
MMC said:
Heya Monte.....seems there was an Effort to bribe the Russians. Now seem to think cuz one source they would control OPEC. Which we know that's not true. What they did say was they wouldn't challenge Russian Gas Sales. That's what I am getting from the main Media Sources. But it is clear that Russia has threatened Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia Tries to Bribe Russia to Abandon Syria


Saudi Arabia has offered Russia a range of incentives in an attempt to bribe Moscow into abandoning their support for the Syrian government.

Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the head of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence services, reportedly set out his country’s offer during a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow last week. It includes a major purchase of Russian military technology and a promise not to challenge Russian gas sales – both dependent on Russia ending its support for the government of President Assad.

Read more at Saudi Arabia Tries to Bribe Russia to Abandon Syria | World News Curator
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Oh, you don't see me disagreeing with any of that.
 
Wiseone said:
And McVeigh was an American citizen, did our own government order him to blow up the OKC building? No. Keep the stupid generalizations to yourself, the actions of a few Saudis doesn't speak for the policy of the Saudi government.



That source has no sources, I'm sorry but nameless sources don't mean anything. That story quotes "Syrian opposition sources," "A Gulf source," and "One Lebanese politician" not great material.
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Wow! Are you uneducated on Saudi support of terrorism!
 
Gimmesometruth said:
You are posting anything and everything, you always do, and it doesn't matter if the articles contradict or make absolutely no sense at all, you will grb it nd post it.....but when it comes to actually having to say something yourself, to analyze or actually interpret the articles, that is when we see the real you....and it is not pretty. So go on again and tell me how I talk out of both side of my mouth while you throw anything and everything against the wall to see what sticks.

You haven't countered anything I have said in Saudi/Russian relations......and news flash.....every new posts is placed at the end of any current discussion....f'n duh.
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That's Right.....on that I post up all the sides of the story unlike you and not just one side. :doh

Unlike you I don't try to keep to one left wind narrative about **** in the world looking to paint a rosy picture. Nor does it matter to me if your ilk thinks it can jump or not. Uhm that would be that liberal slant you think you can sling.

News flash.....Not if I am commenting on whatever first. Then dropping the **** you don't like. Don't like it.....oh well!!!!!
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Montecresto said:
Wow! Are you uneducated on Saudi support of terrorism!
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No, but just because a Saudi national is part of a terrorist act doesn't mean its Saudi policy to support terrorist attacks. That horrible logic and reasoning. Just like if an American takes part in a terrorist attack doesn't mean the US supports terrorist attacks as government policy.
 
Montecresto said:
Oh, you don't see me disagreeing with any of that.
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Oh now they will cry about that NewSource......pretty pathetic when even all the worst ones out there are carrying the news. Yet half of the Libs and progressives can't think on their own to look anything up themselves.
 
Canell said:
What?! :shock:

Is this a joke, MMC? Or are you just being sYrious? :lol:
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Aren't you the Mabus-Nostradamus guy?
According to you, all Obama has to do is fire Sec. of Navy Ray Mabus, and all will be well.
Right?
 
So now we not only question sources as a debate tactic, but SOURCES of sources, lol.
 
There are way to many links between Saudi Arabia and terrorism, but we continue with a policy to be hands off with them as a nation-state to insure that we have a steady flow of oil from the Middle East. Pretty much as long as SA doesn't short the oil market supplies with OPEC, they are given safe-haven from politics. We have sold our soul to the devil. Given our increased North American oil production, there is no further reason to continue this policy other than the big oil campaign donors want it to continue this way.
 
MMC said:
That's Right.....on that I post up all the sides of the story unlike you and not just one side. :doh
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Do you think that posting articles that state whacky tin foil nonsense makes you balanced provider of data? LOL!

Unlike you I don't try to keep to one left wind narrative about **** in the world looking to paint a rosy picture. Nor does it matter to me if your ilk thinks it can jump or not. Uhm that would be that liberal slant you think you can sling.
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This is stupid, you have an obvious RW slant, you are not without extreme bias......and that wasn't the point, the point was that you don't care how accurate the stories you post are.....just so long as they are related to even tangentially to your current meme. Quality? Who cares about quality? Post it!!!

News flash.....Not if I am commenting on whatever first. Then dropping the **** you don't like. Don't like it.....oh well!!!!!
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I see, it is a game for you, flag on the mountain, king of the hill, in shear numbers.....not in understanding or analysis.....just post post post!
 
radioman said:
Aren't you the Mabus-Nostradamus guy?
According to you, all Obama has to do is fire Sec. of Navy Ray Mabus, and all will be well.
Right?
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Nah......that was my 5th cuzin removed from my Mothers Side of the Family.

Try again, I have said in several threads already. According to me.....Obama should wait. Let Syria break up into its 3 regions. Find out who Rises to the top before he decides anything. Sun Tzu.....know thy enemy well. ;)
 
MMC said:
Nah......that was my 5th cuzin removed from my Mothers Side of the Family.

Try again, I have said in several threads already. According to me.....Obama should wait. Let Syria break up into its 3 regions. Find out who Rises to the top before he decides anything. Sun Tzu.....know thy enemy well. ;)
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I agree with YOU on this.
Canell is the Mabus-Nostradamus guy, his theory can be found in the Conspiracy Theories Forum.:)
 
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Wiseone said:
No, but just because a Saudi national is part of a terrorist act doesn't mean its Saudi policy to support terrorist attacks. That horrible logic and reasoning. Just like if an American takes part in a terrorist attack doesn't mean the US supports terrorist attacks as government policy.
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Wtf, the US is doing just that presently in Syria.
 
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