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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Iran has a special type of concrete which uses small particles to produce a very durable concrete. We launched big rockets at material we produced and it just shrugs it off. And Iran has access to the same materials. This is a big problem for bunker busters. If they cannot even pierce the concrete over the target site, the weapon is useless.



    In theory, a kinetic missile launching satellite wants to be fairly high up so that it can cover a large amount of territory. Being able to hit thousands of square miles with a single statellite is more cost effective. Total energy is the only thing we really care about in the end, but it does matter how much area a single satellite can cover. Imagine a 1 ton solid piece of tungsten hitting a target at terminal velocity. That's alot of energy.
    I still don't get it. I understand using altitude to be able to "see" farther and allow more potential targets. I don't see how the delivery system has to be a satellite, though We have keyhole sats and rorsats and mad sats already..We can "see" everything...and so can russia...

    I still don't get how, if terminal velocity is a relatively limited number..at a certain point, no matter what the object, no more speed can be attained...what is the advantage of launching from space?

    It is stupid expensive and it allows the enemy to have more time to counter. We already have subsonic and supersonic missiles here on earth.
    I'm not arguing, I'm ignorant about this subject.

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Now would be a good time for the US to reveal kinetic weapons installed on Satellites. The sheer energy falling from dozens of miles from space has to be immense. Easily enough to break through nanoparticle reinforced concrete.

    But I think we did sign some agreement saying not to weaponize space.
    I wasn't talking about anything launched from satellites.
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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    I still don't get it. I understand using altitude to be able to "see" farther and allow more potential targets. I don't see how the delivery system has to be a satellite, though We have keyhole sats and rorsats and mad sats already..We can "see" everything...and so can russia...
    How are you going to launch kinetic weapons from space without a delivery platform?

    I still don't get how, if terminal velocity is a relatively limited number..at a certain point, no matter what the object, no more speed can be attained...what is the advantage of launching from space?
    Well, if it's disguised as a commercial satellite, easier to hide. And you don't have to rely on any assets on Earth to be in the area. Just load up the targeting and launch from space. IMO, it's pretty ingenious. You basically have a WMD on command that's easily hidden and largely immune to most weapons.

    It is stupid expensive and it allows the enemy to have more time to counter. We already have subsonic and supersonic missiles here on earth.
    I'm not arguing, I'm ignorant about this subject.
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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I wasn't talking about anything launched from satellites.
    That would be cooler though. C'mon, you know I'm right.
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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    How are you going to launch kinetic weapons from space without a delivery platform?



    Well, if it's disguised as a commercial satellite, easier to hide. And you don't have to rely on any assets on Earth to be in the area. Just load up the targeting and launch from space. IMO, it's pretty ingenious. You basically have a WMD on command that's easily hidden and largely immune to most weapons.



    Kinetic bombardment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Last I checked, Project Thor was seriously considered.
    Much simpler to use an EMP device...
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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Much simpler to use an EMP device...
    Uh...to get a sufficiently large EMP, you need a really big nuke, or a series of nukes to ionize the atmosphere. Also, questions remain if anything you're trying to EMP will be left.

    First use of nuclear weapons is largely out of the question. Plus, they aren't precision weapons.
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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    way cool but wholly unworkable, that pesky atmosphere gets in the way
    and you'd never get anything in a high enough orbit to rival the speed this thang had
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    a one ton tungsten rod (one shot?) would cost a small fortune to drag into orbit and then target
    the already on the shelf bunker busters are sufficient
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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    How are you going to launch kinetic weapons from space without a delivery platform?



    Well, if it's disguised as a commercial satellite, easier to hide. And you don't have to rely on any assets on Earth to be in the area. Just load up the targeting and launch from space. IMO, it's pretty ingenious. You basically have a WMD on command that's easily hidden and largely immune to most weapons.



    Kinetic bombardment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Last I checked, Project Thor was seriously considered.
    I still don't understand the "advantage" of it or why it's necessary.

    It sounds like some comic book star trek idea..The necessity of the "device" and the whole concept of how it's "better" than supersonic missiles we already have on earth escapes me. Thanks for taking the time, though.

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Looks like Russia has really upped the Ante now. This coincides with what Moscow is talking about War. I also believe they have some ships down around Bahrain at this time.


    A grim “urgent action memorandum” issued today from the office of President Putin to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is ordering a “massive military strike” against Saudi Arabia in the event that the West attacks Syria.



    According to Kremlin sources familiar with this extraordinary “war order,” Putin became “enraged” after his early August meeting with Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan who warned that if Russia did not accept the defeat of Syria, Saudi Arabia would unleash Chechen terrorists under their control to cause mass death and chaos during the Winter Olympics scheduled to be held 7-23 February 2014 in Sochi, Russia.

    Lebanese newspaper As-Safir confirmed this amazing threat against Russia saying that Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord by stating: “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us.”

    Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on an off.“These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role in Syria’s political future.”.....snip~



    Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria
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    If Putin really wants WWIII all that Russia has to do is throw the 1st punch.




    My guess is that it won't happen because no one in Russia wants to turn this planet over to the rats and cockroaches.

    If the USA put a good enough ass-whipping on Syria this time it probably won't have to do it again.
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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If Putin really wants WWIII all that Russia has to do is throw the 1st punch.
    ..or maybe we could substitute "obama" for putin in that sentence.
    russia isn't a bunch of backward peasants. They know what they're doing and they have more advanced technology than we do. They also have a stronger will and are more nationalistic. Don't kid yourself.
    hell, WE have to pay THEM to fly OUR astronauts into space now.

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