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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    Barack Hussein Osama's no home boi of mine

    Do you honestly think if the excrement hit the fan in the middle east the Barry n Kerry show be up to the task? Dude Seriously!
    If "the excrement hit the fan", neither Obama nor an American President would make much difference, but they'd both do more or less the same by listening to their advisors. Only difference is the rhetoric ... Republicans want to please the gorilla-level electors at home who are easily impressed by grandstanding and stuffed-out trousers and who think that anything short of bombing towelheads in masses is "appeasement", while Democrats want to rhetorically impress the latte-sipping enlightened intellectuals, peaceniks and college-kids by evoking the impression that they at least try to talk with the bad guys first. In the end, they'll do the same.

    Or so is my disillusioned impression after 5 years of Obama.
    "Not learning from mistakes is worse than committing mistakes. When you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, it is hard to be tolerant of others and it does not allow even God to be merciful."

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

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    Russia warns of Mideast suffering if U.S. strikes Syria

    As U.S. ships and British warplanes neared the shores of its last remaining ally in the Middle East, Russia warned again Tuesday that any military intervention in Syria would have "catastrophic consequences" for the region.

    Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said that launching a military strike without seeking approval from the United Nations Security Council would cause "new suffering and catastrophic consequences for other countries of the Middle East and North Africa," according to the Russian TV station RT.

    Russia has vowed to veto any Security Council attempts to approve a military attack on Syria, and it is arming Syria as well, which is why the United States is considering a unilateral attack with the help of the United Kingdom and other nations.

    "The Russians are extremely mad and there's sort of pre-war frenzy in Moscow," Cohen said. "I think in reality their options are limited but dangerous."

    While the Russians are unlikely to oppose U.S. forces in the fields, Cohen listed other things they can do:

    - The Russians could also send Assad their supersonic P800 long-range anti-ship missile, which is capable of sinking NATO ships with a single strike. U.S. officials reported that Israel attempted to destroy such missiles in Latakia during a July 5 air strike, though it was unclear if the strike was successful, according to the Guardian newspaper.

    - The Russians could expand sales to Iran of weapons and nuclear technology that has both nuclear and civilian functions. Iran's nuclear program is considered a threat by Iran's rivals Israel and Gulf Arab states.

    - Russian could pursue plans to deploy a large permanent naval task force and expand its number of bases in the Mediterranean.

    Russia warns of Mideast suffering if U.S. strikes Syria

    Sure hope Lukashevich isn't Right.

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    In the end, they'll do the same
    The situation wouldn't look like is does today if a real Conservative ahd been in office these last five years, you don't have to believe that but it a fact. So as the de facto leader of the EU what would your countries' position be when the shooting started? Prolly kick back like the ChiComs and laugh all the to the Deutsche Bundesbank?

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    If "the excrement hit the fan", neither Obama nor an American President would make much difference, but they'd both do more or less the same by listening to their advisors. Only difference is the rhetoric ... Republicans want to please the gorilla-level electors at home who are easily impressed by grandstanding and stuffed-out trousers and who think that anything short of bombing towelheads in masses is "appeasement", while Democrats want to rhetorically impress the latte-sipping enlightened intellectuals, peaceniks and college-kids by evoking the impression that they at least try to talk with the bad guys first. In the end, they'll do the same.

    Or so is my disillusioned impression after 5 years of Obama.
    Yeah, well its split on both sides. Neo Cons want to go in. So do neo Libs. Palin and Tea partists say stay out. But now Kucinich has spoken out too.

    Kucinich: Syria strike would turn US into 'al Qaeda's air force'

    Airstrikes on Syria would turn the U.S. military into “al Qaeda's air force,” former Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) told The Hill.

    The outspoken anti-war activist said any such action would plunge the United States into another war in the Middle East and embolden Islamist militants fighting Bashar Assad's regime.

    “So what, we're about to become Al Qaeda's air force now?” Kucinich said. “This is a very, very serious matter that has broad implications internationally. And to try to minimize it by saying we're just going to have a 'targeted strike' — that's an act of war. It's not anything to be trifled with.”

    The comments echo warnings from Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who voted against legislation to arm the Syrian rebels earlier this year by saying such a move would boost al Qaeda.

    “This is being used as a pretext,” he said. “The verdict is in before the facts have been gathered. What does that tell you?”

    Read more: Kucinich: Syria strike would turn US into 'al Qaeda's air force' - The Hill's Global Affairs
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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Russians are extremely mad and there's sort of pre-war frenzy in Moscow
    I suppose being a non-player on the world's stage for so long now has bummed them out but what's a mother Russia to do?

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah, well its split on both sides. Neo Cons want to go in. So do neo Libs. Palin and Tea partists say stay out. But now Kucinich has spoken out too.

    Kucinich: Syria strike would turn US into 'al Qaeda's air force'

    Airstrikes on Syria would turn the U.S. military into “al Qaeda's air force,” former Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) told The Hill.

    The outspoken anti-war activist said any such action would plunge the United States into another war in the Middle East and embolden Islamist militants fighting Bashar Assad's regime.

    “So what, we're about to become Al Qaeda's air force now?” Kucinich said. “This is a very, very serious matter that has broad implications internationally. And to try to minimize it by saying we're just going to have a 'targeted strike' — that's an act of war. It's not anything to be trifled with.”

    The comments echo warnings from Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who voted against legislation to arm the Syrian rebels earlier this year by saying such a move would boost al Qaeda.

    “This is being used as a pretext,” he said. “The verdict is in before the facts have been gathered. What does that tell you?”

    Read more: Kucinich: Syria strike would turn US into 'al Qaeda's air force' - The Hill's Global Affairs
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    Well, this argument would make sense if the Syrian opposition indeed mainly consists of islamists now.

    I don't know what to believe. I've heard different claims in these regards, some saying that most of the fighters are indeed islamists, others pointing out that while there is indeed significant "war tourism" by islamists, the vast majority of the opposition are still just "common people".

    So... *shrug*
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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    August 28, 2013
    Putin’s Silence on Syria Signals Resignation on Attack
    By STEVEN LEE MYERS
    MOSCOW — Russia has made its opposition to military intervention in Syria vehemently clear. The foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, warns daily about the risk of an escalating conflagration. A deputy prime minister said the West dealt with the Islamic world like “a monkey with a grenade.” A few commentators on the fringe have warned of World War III.

    The one voice that has remained silent, though, is the one that matters most.

    President Vladimir V. Putin has conspicuously avoided public comment on reports of a chemical weapons attack on civilians outside of Damascus, the Syrian capital, on Aug. 21, which killed hundreds of people. Instead he has carried on, like many ordinary Russians, as if the civil war in Syria had not reached an ominous new phase. In the days after the attack, Mr. Putin attended a ceremony for the restoration of a fountain made famous in World War II, visited a breakaway province of neighboring Georgia and toured a mine and dam in Siberia.

    There is no doubt about Mr. Putin’s opposition to retaliatory strikes. Nor about his support of the government of President Bashar al-Assad in a conflict Mr. Assad has repeatedly described as a war against Islamic extremism.

    Mr. Putin’s public reticence, though, reflects a calculation that Russia can do little to stop a military intervention if the United States and other countries move ahead without the authorization of the United Nations Security Council – and that he has little to lose at home, at least, if they do.

    Mr. Lavrov, in expansive remarks to reporters this week, made it clear that Russia’s reaction to international intervention in Syria would be limited to a war of words – “We, of course, are not planning to go to war with anybody,” he said. That stance could ultimately benefit Mr. Putin.

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The Canucks will take it.
    I'm going with the US. since we wont draft any of our hockey players.

    Looks like the Analysts are saying Syrian Retaliation is not an Empty threat.

    Syria retaliation threat not empty words, analysts say

    Syria's Assad regime and its Iran-backed allies have pledged to retaliate against any U.S. attack, and analysts say weapons and terror networks at their disposal mean the threats should be taken seriously.

    "Iran is a huge threat," said Ariel Cohen, a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation who specializes in Russia and Central Asia.

    Both Iran and Syria have threatened to retaliate against Israel and other U.S. allies in the Middle East in the event of a U.S. attack on Syria over its alleged use of chemical weapons against civilians. Hundreds of Syrians in a region held by rebels were reported killed in the Aug. 21 attack.

    If Iran decides to retaliate against U.S. allies to protect Assad it could go after not only Israel but the Arab states allied with the U.S. such as Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan.

    Iran could order Hezbollah and its Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps to use their networks around the world to target several countries that support the military strike. Hezbollah has killed hundreds of civilians, including Americans, and it depends on Syria as a transit for weapons and occasional safe haven.

    Iran could also try to close the Straits of Hormuz, the narrow Persian Gulf passage for about 20% of the world's petroleum supply, Cohen says.

    "When we keep an eye on Syria we need to keep an eye on the security of shipping, especially the shipping of oil in the straits," Cohen says.....snip~

    Syria retaliation threat not empty words, analysts say

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Well, this argument would make sense if the Syrian opposition indeed mainly consists of islamists now.

    I don't know what to believe. I've heard different claims in these regards, some saying that most of the fighters are indeed islamists, others pointing out that while there is indeed significant "war tourism" by islamists, the vast majority of the opposition are still just "common people".

    So... *shrug*
    Heya German Guy. The Syrian Rebels are backed by the MB and the Salfists. Then there is AQ. Then there is Al Nusra and then there is the Islamic Kurds. That we know of. We do know that 29 Opposition groups and civilian committees are backing al Nusra. Who has come out and stated they do not Recogonize the FSA and Idris and the TNC. That there will be no democracy. That Syria will be under Sharia law.

    Which is why I said Obama should wait. Let Syria divide up into its 3 regions and see who rises to the top. Then we will know who is backing who and who is where.

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    This is the same coalition formed over the Amash amendment, NSA and the traitor in Russia.

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