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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wow! That sounds like a criticism you could make of any US president that has busied himself starting foreign wars while ignoring domestic problems.
    True. However, every president seems to have taken at least a nominal role in domestic affairs, while Putin's main concern seems to be making Russia more authoritan and generally more of a bad place.
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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Sherman.....plus it is not the first time they threatened them, back in June with Qatar was the First. Actually there were talks between the Saud and Putin. I think a deal was worked out.
    Russia has never militarily threatened either Saudi Arabia or Qatar. That is politically, militarily, and geographically infeasible for Russia. Moreover in a conflict over Saudi and Gulf airspace the Russians would face disaster. The deal worked out last summer and the one before were attempts to coax Russia away from Iran and Syria by offering a mix of arms deals, oil production agreements, and the like. It has not been successful.

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Nah.....I never put any on ignore. But don't you worry there will be some thoughts that he knows deep inside you and he will tell you which ones you were thinking.

    Don't worry its like Hillary's all kinds of cracks in it.
    I know...LMAO..you're right..

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Russia has never militarily threatened either Saudi Arabia or Qatar. That is politically, militarily, and geographically infeasible for Russia. Moreover in a conflict over Saudi and Gulf airspace the Russians would face disaster. The deal worked out last summer and the one before were attempts to coax Russia away from Iran and Syria by offering a mix of arms deals, oil production agreements, and the like. It has not been successful.
    Do you mean this wasn't militarily?

    Asian Defense: Russia threatens to bomb Qatar and Saudi Arabia




    As Syria itself has warned that should it be attacked by the West there will be “global chaos,” the Western peoples themselves have not been told of the fact that on 17 May 2013, Putin ordered Russian military forces to “immediately move” from Local War to Regional War operational status and to be “fully prepared” to expand to Large-Scale War should either the US or EU enter into the Syrian Civil War, a situation they are still in at this very hour.

    With Putin’s previous order, and as we had reported on in our 17 May report “Russia Issues “All-Out War” Alert Over Syria,” and now combined with his new ordering of massive retaliatory strikes against Saudi Arabia, any attack on Syria is viewed by Russia as being an attack on itself.

    And as we had previously explained in great detail, the fight over Syria, being led by Saudi Arabia and Qatar and their lap-dog Western allies, has but one single objective: To break Russia’s hold on the European Union natural gas market which a pipeline through Syria would accomplish, and as reported by London’s Financial Times News Service this past June:

    Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria | EUTimes.net

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Russia has never militarily threatened either Saudi Arabia or Qatar. That is politically, militarily, and geographically infeasible for Russia. Moreover in a conflict over Saudi and Gulf airspace the Russians would face disaster. The deal worked out last summer and the one before were attempts to coax Russia away from Iran and Syria by offering a mix of arms deals, oil production agreements, and the like. It has not been successful.
    Hey Sherman, it's good to see you posting here. I remember you have some professional insight into these questions, so your opinion is very helpful.

    I'd like to ask you: What is your general take on the entire situation? What's the goal of a possible Western attack on Syria?

    Based on some mainstream news information I read and watched today, it was suggested that Obama's main goal is to appease the hawks at home who claim he has "no balls". The US already communicated it would be a very limited mission, only lasting two or three days, which is a signal towards Assad and Russia that the US do not really want to topple Assad's regime. Ideally, the attack would serve the purpose of raising the threshhold for using chemical weapons for dictators in the region, and force Assad and the Syrian opposition at the negotiation table. Regime change is not the goal.

    Some experts also said that despite the sabor rattling, an escalation beyond Syrian borders is unlikely, because as long as Assad believes he can survive the short attacks politically, he will not likely further endanger his grip on power by provoking a response to possible attacks on Israel or Turkey. He'd only do that if he felt the objective was toppling him.

    What do you think about this estimation, and what do you think will and can Russia do about it, or what does Russia even want? What will Iran's role be?
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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Do you mean this wasn't militarily?

    Asian Defense: Russia threatens to bomb Qatar and Saudi Arabia




    As Syria itself has warned that should it be attacked by the West there will be “global chaos,” the Western peoples themselves have not been told of the fact that on 17 May 2013, Putin ordered Russian military forces to “immediately move” from Local War to Regional War operational status and to be “fully prepared” to expand to Large-Scale War should either the US or EU enter into the Syrian Civil War, a situation they are still in at this very hour.

    With Putin’s previous order, and as we had reported on in our 17 May report “Russia Issues “All-Out War” Alert Over Syria,” and now combined with his new ordering of massive retaliatory strikes against Saudi Arabia, any attack on Syria is viewed by Russia as being an attack on itself.

    And as we had previously explained in great detail, the fight over Syria, being led by Saudi Arabia and Qatar and their lap-dog Western allies, has but one single objective: To break Russia’s hold on the European Union natural gas market which a pipeline through Syria would accomplish, and as reported by London’s Financial Times News Service this past June:

    Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria | EUTimes.net
    Neither are credible sources. This threat did not occur. Both articles are replete with conspiratorial nonsense like "who warned that if Russia did not accept the defeat of Syria, Saudi Arabia would unleash Chechen terrorists under their control to cause mass death and chaos during the Winter Olympics scheduled to be held 7-23 February 2014 in Sochi, Russia." which is audibly ludicrous.

    Seeking out a variety of sources is commendable, just make sure you haven't picked up nonsense.

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    I know...LMAO..you're right..

    I'm not even going to waste time scanning nonsense or try to have a discussion with anyone who has no points to make other than angry trolling as an excuse to be disruptive and agitate. Differences of opinion are fine but if a person doesn't have enough character and maturity to be polite, I'm out.
    I can certainly understand that. Now you know why I jumped on trying to redirect the derailment asap.

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    There are many links between the country of Saudi Arabia and terrorism but very few links to the government of Saudi Arabia and modern terrorist groups. Obviously Saudi Arabia is home to many would be terror recruits, leaders, and exhorting clerics. The Saudi government has no interest in seeing this continue or succeed and as a matter of self-preservation has been working assiduously to suppress them. Since the end of Arab Nationalism the greatest threat to the Kingdom has been from Islamists not Republicans.
    Sorry but SA is encouraging radicalism with their strict adherence to Muslim culture whether they think they are combating "terrorism" or not. I was friends with a girl from there who was terrified every time she had to go home. She eventually moved to the US permanently since she was a dual citizen and was able to do so once she got out on her own.

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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Sorry but SA is encouraging radicalism with their strict adherence to Muslim culture whether they think they are combating "terrorism" or not. I was friends with a girl from there who was terrified every time she had to go home. She eventually moved to the US permanently since she was a dual citizen and was able to do so once she got out on her own.
    Extremely authoritarian, restrictive Muslim orthodoxes don't necessarily like authoritarian, violent fundamentalist-islamist terrorists.
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    Re: Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria.....

    It has to be true I saw it on the Internet

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