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    Re: Iranian Official: Israel to Be ‘First Victim’ of U.S. Attack on Syria

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    Re: Iranian Official: Israel to Be ‘First Victim’ of U.S. Attack on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The Soviet Union's collapse was accelerated because of overspending on their military to maintian parity with the U.S. buildup. Perhaps the Russians (and the Chinese) now see that by helping to keep things "stirred up" (while profiting from arms/nuclear sales to U.S. enemies) in other nations (supporting the Jihad?) will lead the U.S. to go down the same path - military overspending leading to economic decline.



    Causes of the Collapse of the Soviet Union



    The Economic Collapse of the Soviet Union



    Collapse of Soviet Union
    Sure, that's a possible scenario. Another possible scenario is that Russia and China are genuinely tired of US imperialism/hegemony. Have you paid any attention to Russian/Chinese military expenditures in the last five years. The graph has shot straight up!

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    Re: Iranian Official: Israel to Be ‘First Victim’ of U.S. Attack on Syria

    I do not care about Isreal or any Middle East country period!

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    Re: Iranian Official: Israel to Be ‘First Victim’ of U.S. Attack on Syria

    We'll see. Th EU papers reported that Putin has declared Russia will attack Saudi Arabia if the US attacks Syria. And what with all the saber rattling, Obama is kinda stuck. He HAS to act or he looks like an even BIGGER puss. But if he DOES act, who knows what the actual repercussions will be. Perhaps his best bet is not to bluff but to announce pretty loud and clear to Iran, Russia, and anyone else that their choice to attack others based on Syrian action would be extraordinarily unwise.

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    Re: Iranian Official: Israel to Be ‘First Victim’ of U.S. Attack on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't necessarily disagree with that. But my point was that, we haven't seen the Russians this adamant for decades. Do we really want to risk that their threats are empty, that their predictions about the results of a US attack on Syria are baseless, just so that we can attack another country that hasn't harmed us? ANYBODY that supports this is insane!!
    What happens in Syria is a major headache for Russia. Unlike in Libya, Russia has some major interests in Syria. Any military action would demonstrate Russia's weakness to prevent such attacks. Russia feels its credibility is somewhat on the line. Given the interests involved and the balance of power, Russia will probably respond short of direct military intervention. Arms deliveries to Syria (perhaps at a scale to tilt the sectarian conflict decidedly in Assad's favor, sophisticated systems to make future military responses more costly, and possibly covert action), suspension of cooperation on Iran (maybe even full withdrawal from the international talks (P5+1 framework), and possible new arms deals with Tehran to make military strikes there more difficult are some options that are probably in the mix.

    Finally, as I've stated in numerous threads, I do not support U.S. military intervention in Syria's civil war. Aside from the fact that no major U.S. interests are involved, neither party to the sectarian conflict has demonstrated much regard for civilian protections. No matter the outcome, Syria is not likely to pursue policies that are significantly more compatible with U.S. interests. The anti-Assad movement's continuing failure to outline future policy goals vis-ŕ-vis U.S. interests over a more than two-year period since the conflict erupted speaks volumes. That the movement passed up ample opportunity to articulate its goals and aims is not, in my view, accidental. It is deliberate.

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    Re: Iranian Official: Israel to Be ‘First Victim’ of U.S. Attack on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    We'll see. Th EU papers reported that Putin has declared Russia will attack Saudi Arabia if the US attacks Syria. And what with all the saber rattling, Obama is kinda stuck. He HAS to act or he looks like an even BIGGER puss. But if he DOES act, who knows what the actual repercussions will be. Perhaps his best bet is not to bluff but to announce pretty loud and clear to Iran, Russia, and anyone else that their choice to attack others based on Syrian action would be extraordinarily unwise.
    Any papers making such claims are engaging in reckless journalism. Russia will not attack Saudi Arabia. Its interests simply don't justify such an attack and Russia is not an irrational actor. It very likely will take measures, but an attack on Saudi Arabia is not one of those measures, unless Russia were irrational (and it isn't).

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    Re: Iranian Official: Israel to Be ‘First Victim’ of U.S. Attack on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sure, that's a possible scenario. Another possible scenario is that Russia and China are genuinely tired of US imperialism/hegemony. Have you paid any attention to Russian/Chinese military expenditures in the last five years. The graph has shot straight up!
    ...and they would participate with glee in any activity that (further) destabilizes the u.s.

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    Re: Iranian Official: Israel to Be ‘First Victim’ of U.S. Attack on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    We'll see. Th EU papers reported that Putin has declared Russia will attack Saudi Arabia if the US attacks Syria. And what with all the saber rattling, Obama is kinda stuck. He HAS to act or he looks like an even BIGGER puss. But if he DOES act, who knows what the actual repercussions will be. Perhaps his best bet is not to bluff but to announce pretty loud and clear to Iran, Russia, and anyone else that their choice to attack others based on Syrian action would be extraordinarily unwise.
    What? Where? When?

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    Re: Iranian Official: Israel to Be ‘First Victim’ of U.S. Attack on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Any papers making such claims are engaging in reckless journalism. Russia will not attack Saudi Arabia. Its interests simply don't justify such an attack and Russia is not an irrational actor. It very likely will take measures, but an attack on Saudi Arabia is not one of those measures, unless Russia were irrational (and it isn't).
    Russia is using as its justification a reported threat made to Putin by a Saudi Prince "According to Kremlin sources familiar with this extraordinary “war order,” Putin became “enraged” after his early August meeting with Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan who warned that if Russia did not accept the defeat of Syria, Saudi Arabia would unleash Chechen terrorists under their control to cause mass death and chaos during the Winter Olympics scheduled to be held 7-23 February 2014 in Sochi, Russia."

    Mind you...they will only attack if the 'west' attacks Syria.

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    Re: Iranian Official: Israel to Be ‘First Victim’ of U.S. Attack on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    What? Where? When?
    Google is our friend...

    https://www.google.com/#fp=76d84e2dc...n+saudi+arabia

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