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Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threa[W:423]

Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

You know nothing about me. And your consistent need to chase me down and throw accusations at me is odd. I am anything but simple and my understanding of these situations are anything but simple. Your inability to understand says more about you than me.

I don't chase anyone down...

Why are you getting so defensive and why are you making accusations against me? People post in forums about certain topics, that's what they're there for. I respond to posts in certain areas that interest me. You sent me a private message to discuss this issue with you so I thought you were interested in talking about it. Apparently not?

The only thing I know about you is that you post about race as if everything is about racism, it's not, I challenge you to keep an open mind and not automatically jump to the conclusion that because a black person is involved and feels or actually is disenfranchised that it must be about race. It's not always about race and it's wrong to automatically come to that conclusion without first requiring evidence to back it up. If you have the evidence then please share because race being the most obvious answer in your mind certainly doesn't make it so.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

why are they not probable? The guy who wrote the facebook post said his accusation was based on nothing more than the person complaining being white.

It is possible, but given the history of racism in this country towards black americans and the scarcity of incidents where whites are subjected to the same treatment, it is more likely that the black people got loud and the white people freaked out. The problem here is when feelings of being threatened entered the picture. Given what we know now, I don't understand feeling threatened. I'm sorry but it is the same mistake GZ made that night.
 
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IMO this whole thread is a colossal cluster***k (present company excluded)

Well, that's because you really, really don't like being held to the words you type. That's not just THIS thread.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

A love for all things chicken, particularly fried chicken, is a common stereotype that many racists like to believe in about black people.

I even found some black folks that agree (sort of):

Fried Chicken and Me: A Black History Month Expose | Pimps, Preachers and Politicians

Why Do Black People Love Fried Chicken so much? - News that matters to Black America - BlackPlanet.com
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

I don't chase anyone down...

Why are you getting so defensive and why are you making accusations against me? People post in forums about certain topics, that's what they're there for. I respond to posts in certain areas that interest me. You sent me a private message to discuss this issue with you so I thought you were interested in talking about it. Apparently not?

The only thing I know about you is that you post about race as if everything is about racism, it's not, I challenge you to keep an open mind and not automatically jump to the conclusion that because a black person is involved and feels or actually is disenfranchised that it must be about race. It's not always about race and it's wrong to automatically come to that conclusion without first requiring evidence to back it up. If you have the evidence then please share because race being the most obvious answer in your mind certainly doesn't make it so.

She's probably young, lives in some little podunk town with a white majority and has had little to no contact with negroes or big city life...
That's usually the case with the most rabid anti whites.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

I have been reading through other articles about this incident and have not seen anything that includes that statement from a witness. Can you tell me where you got that.

I quoted one several times, and specifically, in response to you. As usual, you're dodging.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

After reading several articles on line regarding this incident I can't help but come to the conclusion that there was most likely some subtle racism involved that provoked the restaurant staff to handle this situation the way that they did. I also must conclude that the customer that felt threatened had some racial issues that provoked fear in them.

Would you care to cite these "several articles" and state specifically what was in them which forces you to come to these "conclusions"? You know, links, quotes, details like that. Because these "conclusions" are not any different from the assumptions you've been working from all throughout the thread.

So, let's see the goods.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

They felt threatened. How does that make sense any other way?

If there were a lot of them, being loud and obnoxious, yelling racial epithets, and harassing a deaf girl, makes perfect "sense."
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Would you care to cite these "several articles" and state specifically what was in them which forces you to come to these "conclusions"? You know, links, quotes, details like that. Because these "conclusions" are not any different from the assumptions you've been working from all throughout the thread.

So, let's see the goods.

Good luck with that. It ain't gonna happen.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

She's probably young, lives in some little podunk town with a white majority and has had little to no contact with negroes or big city life...
That's usually the case with the most rabid anti whites.

I don't know who she is and I'd rather not try to guess. All I know is I'm tired of people automatically labeling whites as racist without backing up their claims. It's a very serious thing in my opinion. I don't have much if any tolerance for racism once it's been established as racism but it needs to first be established as such with actual evidence. I've seen the effects that such irresponsible and quite frankly completely wrong claims of racism can have on people first hand. It's wrong, it's always wrong to go after and hurt innocent people.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

It is possible, but given the history of racism in this country towards black americans and the scarcity of incidents where whites are subjected to the same treatment, it is more likely that the black people got loud and the white people freaked out.

That makes no sense


The problem here is when feelings of being threatened entered the picture. Given what we know now, I don't understand feeling threatened.

Right now, we don't know much of any details ....

hence the issue with you continuously drawing such conclusions (that you oddly keep denying drawing)
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

That makes no sense




Right now, we don't know much of any details ....

hence the issue with you continuously drawing such conclusions (that you oddly keep denying drawing)

Well, she said she read "several articles." I asked for links and the details in them which led her to her conclusions. She has a chance to make her case. We'll see if she does.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

So they just made up the title? ;)

No, the title grew out of the ground.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

I remember a friend of ours who bought tickets to a buffet dinner at Hawthorne Race Track, Cicero, Illinois. The buffet was being run by a church. She bought six tickets and we were among those she invited. When we got there, we were all asked to leave. We were the only white faces among a sea of black. The pastor apologized, told us to come get our food (he escorted us) and to please please go to another level to enjoy it. He was afraid his congregation would cause us problems.

We laughed our asses off, thanked the pastor and did just that. It happens. But I don't believe it happened at Buffalo Wild Wings based on this account.



HAWTHORNE Race Track--aww the memories.....I heard that they closed those racetracks down?
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

No, the title grew out of the ground.

I assumed that the poster at least read the article that was included in their post.

This quote is from the "original" article.

This type of racial discrimination is unacceptable and we have to put a STOP TO IT

This quote was from the customer complaint posted on Facebook, the entire basis for the article.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

If a group of any type of people are blocking the exit of a resturant, isn't that enough reason to ask them to leave?

Combined with rowdiness and racial slurs, wouldn't that be enough to be threatening?
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Bull****. I've worked security at a liquor establishment and the last thing you want to do is call the police on unruly patrons.

Your logic fails.

I have worked in certain retail establishments and a few restaurants and calling the police in regards to people getting out of control is pretty standard. A few places even set policy not to confront, and to use the police. Hell, I have even had mall security call the police on me to have me escorted off the property for wearing a dress. They did not even do it themselves despite having asked me politely a number of times to leave. So yeah your point is pretty much wrong.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

How many times have you personally witnessed a black person ejected from an establishment for no apparent reason?

I won't say I haven't been runned off from a resturant, but it wasn't because I'm black. It was because I was showing my ass.

Yes, just because you don't see it means it does not exist, which would explain why you want to not see things like this because that way you can pretend it doesn't exist. I am pretty well aware of how that works.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

I have worked in certain retail establishments and a few restaurants and calling the police in regards to people getting out of control is pretty standard.
There's no reason to call the police if the offending party leaves voluntarily when asked. And of course over 99% of them will leave because they know they won't get served anyways. And that seems to be the case in this incident. However you do get an occasional irrational idiot who won't leave despie being told that they have worn out their welcome.

For example...
Hell, I have even had mall security call the police on me to have me escorted off the property for wearing a dress. They did not even do it themselves despite having asked me politely a number of times to leave. So yeah your point is pretty much wrong.
Now that's hilarious. There's GOT to be much more to that story than you're telling us. Most malls actually sell dresses and even encourage patrons to try them on.

So how did you manage to get kicked out?

Pleeeeese provide details.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

There's no reason to call the police if the offending party leaves voluntarily when asked. And of course over 99% of them will leave because they know they won't get served anyways. And that seems to be the case in this incident. However you do get an occasional irrational idiot who won't leave despie being told that they have worn out their welcome.


Think about what you are now saying. The group was asked to leave because they were threatening, but when asked politely to leave they had a complaint and then left. How threatening is that? That is not threatening at all. The real word that should have been used is offending. A threatening group is not going to go OK you are wrong but we will go someplace else. If they do, they were not a threat. If that is the case someone overreacted. No, this group offended people, and they used threatening because it sounded better. Not for nothing, I could see tossing a group of people who are cursing and swearing out of a family establishment for disturbing customers, but that was not why they were tossed out. They were tossed out for threatening. Which means they did not have enough actual offensive things to toss them on, which just leaves them offending others due to their black skin.
For example...
Now that's hilarious. There's GOT to be much more to that story than you're telling us. Most malls actually sell dresses and even encourage patrons to try them on.

So how did you manage to get kicked out?

Pleeeeese provide details.

I am sorry, I was crossdressed. I am a guy. yes, while security was getting the police to throw me out, I actually went to the store where i purchased the dress just for the fun of having the manager start arguing on my behalf for being a customer. It was so bad the cops actually had to tell the head of security to cool his jets and one of the security officers to shut up because they wanted the police to taze me. I can understand what these people went through, and why it was offensive.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

HAWTHORNE Race Track--aww the memories.....I heard that they closed those racetracks down?

Yeah, Hawthorne's gone. Arlington Park's still here though. It's owned by Churchill Downs. Who knew?
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

I'm taking a shot at her general assertion that this is something which doesn't happen often. It does. White only, black only businesses exist today. They just don't label themselves as such. Try getting a loan in Harlem as a white guy or black clientele at certain barbershops down South. Won't happen.

this is true. no one is going to come straight out and tell you you can't come in..but you will get funny looks if you are the "wrong color" in some places.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

After reading several articles on line regarding this incident I can't help but come to the conclusion that there was most likely some subtle racism involved that provoked the restaurant staff to handle this situation the way that they did. I also must conclude that the customer that felt threatened had some racial issues that provoked fear in them. Because how in the world does it make sense to feel "threatened" by people being a little rowdy. Why did it illicit fear? It's a problem when one chooses to hold everyone in a particular ethnic group responsible for the behavior of other members of the same group. Not every black person is a potential thug.

Just because someone thinks these 25 were thug doesn't mean they also think the entire race is thugs. Remember, a business has the right to refuse service to anyone.
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

this is true. no one is going to come straight out and tell you you can't come in..but you will get funny looks if you are the "wrong color" in some places.

and shame on anyone who wants to do business there but is without the guts to enter
it's on them, NOT the shop owner
 
Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

Yes, just because you don't see it means it does not exist, which would explain why you want to not see things like this because that way you can pretend it doesn't exist. I am pretty well aware of how that works.

I think you pretend it exists in instances where it doesn't.
 
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