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Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threa[W:423]

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Dr. Chuckles said:
Does anyone else find it ironic that so many here, and the person who originated the facebook post, simply assumed race was a factor because the person who lodged the complaint was white, but reports are now indicating it was based on one of the party verbally assaulting a deaf person?
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Ironic? Sadly, no. It's now just par for the course.

The issue of race has been so horribly blown out of proportion over the last few years that that it often seems like everything is being made into a race issue.....well at least everything that can't be made into a gay vs straight issue or a Christian vs Atheist issue.
 
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shrubnose said:
There are a lot of places to eat in the USA.

Why would anyone wait two hours to get a meal?
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No mention of reservations.

What gets me is that any time you have a large group, reservations need to be made. I wonder what types of comments were made as people waiting for tables for two were moving past them. I'm sure at least a few of the 25 had to be getting pretty steamed.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
If your establishement has a beer/liquor license then you are very reluctant to call the police to your location. The number of disturbance calls to police is a matter of public record and can affect the keeping/renewal of that important license on which your business depends. This is why many such establishments spend their own money on private security/bouncers.
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Besides, you don't use the police to remove someone unless they are reusing the request to leave.
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
I don't know, making comments about black people being unable to resist chicken wings seems rather blatantly racist.
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There was nothing like that said in the post he quoted.

You guys sure love that word, though, it appears. ....funny
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Please realize that there's no proof it even happened. This all started because of his Facebook post - nothing else.
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Yep.

No proof, just a 'he-said-she-said' type situation.
 
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opendebate said:
Do you realize how insanely racist that statement is?
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hey opendebate...I was wondering if you missed the question I asked you in post #191?
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Wild Wing Cafe Michael Brown: Black Group Refused Service At Cafe | News One

seems brown might be the one with racial preconceptions
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That's a pretty one-sided article as well, but at least it provides some more details. They say they did call ahead, so there's that. If they did and WWC took that long to make space, then WWC was providing some pretty piss-poor service.

The article didn't include anything about the behavior which would make someone uncomfortable, though. If they were doing what others said (including harassing a deaf girl), then I would think a lot of people would be uncomfortable around them, understandably so.
 
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P. Kersey said:
hey opendebate...I was wondering if you missed the question I asked you in post #191?
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I prefer not to engage in conversations with people who don't want to hear me.
 
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opendebate said:
I prefer not to engage in conversations with people who don't want to hear me.
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hahahahaha.....evasion.

Do you cross the street without looking?
 
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Pretty dumb question the first time.
P. Kersey said:
hahahahaha.....evasion.

Do you cross the street without looking?
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'moose' muhammad, retired carolina panthers receiver, is a principal of the restaurant's ownership group
tell us again that the company is racially motivated against black folks
 
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P. Kersey said:
There was nothing like that said in the post he quoted.

You guys sure love that word, though, it appears. ....funny
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Yes, clearly from my posts in this thread I just love declaring things racist. Got me there ...
 
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Under the guidelines which warrant the refusal of service; the safety, welfare, and well-being of fellow patrons means what this manager did was permissible. Now, if the underlying theme behind the customer's complaint was in fact race than that demonstrates the customer understands these guidelines and was smart enough to use the proper language to prompt a refusal of service.

Waiting 2 hours however seems suspicious. A party of 25 would either be informed that we lack the accommodations or a swift rearrangement would be made of an entire portion of the restaurant -- even setting up two tables -- to seat them. Restaurants are in the money making business last I checked, and a party of 25 would bring in money....

However, not understanding the logistics of seating people, of accommodating parties of that size, many people who came in after them probably were seated ahead of them and that may have caused a bit of rambunctiousness on their parts creating a hostile atmosphere which could lead to people feeling unsafe or threatened. People dining there do have a right to a relaxed and comfortable atmosphere. The party's size doesn't give them the right to infringe on other customers dining experience.
 
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mak2 said:
Pretty dumb question the first time.
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Not in the context of the conversation.

Her premise was that anyone who was willing to use a weapon to defend themselves was "scared".

I replied with post #191.

Are you able to follow that line of reasoning?
 
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CRUE CAB said:
I know, blacks never ever do anything that is questionable or agitating.
24 people, no reservation, at a chain resturant. Yea, OK.
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That's my whole problem with the story. I see no indication that they had a reservation.
 
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Lord of Planar said:
That's my whole problem with the story. I see no indication that they had a reservation.
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do you think that they were treated properly?
 
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Dr. Chuckles said:
Yes, clearly from my posts in this thread I just love declaring things racist. Got me there ...
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you managed to get the word in both of your last 2 posts...and your friend used the word in his last post..and has both "racist" and "racism" in his sig.

you guys are funny...now call me a racist and the circle will be complete. :2funny:
 
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sangha said:
i personally would not wait for so long, but I know that there are people who do that. In addition, most restaurants are not equipped to handle a walk-in party of 25. They may have waited thinking that no one else would be able to accommodate their group.

If the restaurant had a valid reason for denying them service, then why would they offer the people a free meal?
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I took a look on Google maps. judging by the size of the building and parking lot, it looks like 25 people is a significant percentage of the capacity. I could see it being impossible to seat a group that large together, at one time. I wonder what the likelihood of the mistakes might be someone not telling them when they first walked in "we don't have room to seat you all together."
 
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ReformCollege said:
Why wasn't the one white customer kicked out? Seems like bad managing.
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What if the "one custom,er complaint" isn't true?

Do you believe everything on facebook?

Definitely something to fire a manager over if true, unless the customer recorded a threat or something, on his smart phone... Which is getting more common these days.
 
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justabubba said:
do you think that they were treated properly?
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Why does anyone care whether or not they had reservations?? Can you help me understand how that is the least bit relevant?
 
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P. Kersey said:
you managed to get the word in both of your last 2 posts...and your friend used the word in his last post..and has both "racist" and "racism" in his sig.
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Yes, imagine using racism in a thread discussing racism. Again, can't get anything past you slugger ...

PS discussing racism, if it actually occurred, and what it is, isn't the same as declaring something racism. And if you would bother reading the thread you would notice that I am one of the people pointing to a lack of evidence for racism, or racial motivations
 
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Yeah, this was pretty blatant... and they got at least part of it on video!

The fact that Management was contacted several times over a period of weeks, and only made a move to "rectify" the situation after it hit social media leads me to believe they didn't think kicking a group of black people out "because they can" was a big deal. I agree with the guy being interviewed. It clearly WAS a big deal, and they don't want free food. They want the policy that if a white person feels "threatened", black people can be kicked out "because they can" changed.

I don't blame him one damned bit. Anyone who looks for excuses to call this something other than what it was... blatant racism condoned by management... should frankly be ashamed of themselves.
 
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Looking when you cross the street has nothing to do with fear.

I carry and have clicked off my safety once and had my thumb on it twice. I was scared, or at least reasonalby in fear for my life. See post 172. Not the same thing.
P. Kersey said:
Not in the context of the conversation.

Her premise was that anyone who was willing to use a weapon to defend themselves was "scared".

I replied with post #191.

Are you able to follow that line of reasoning?
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tererun said:
If they were that bad to which they needed to be tossed out and were threatening others the management would have called the police. It is the carolinas, and a rowdy black crowd who was threatening people would be something the police would have dealt with. The reason we know this is BS is because there was no police involvement because calling them for a false report would be a crime.
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Bull****. I've worked security at a liquor establishment and the last thing you want to do is call the police on unruly patrons.

Your logic fails.
 
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