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Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threa[W:423]

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opendebate said:
I'm guessing that they were loud. White people find loud black people scary. End of story.
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:lol: :doh Is that now clear justification for SYG? :roll:

I find your statement even more scary. The establishment in question is not a library called Mild Wings. ;)
 
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Went looking around to see if there was more to the story than is being loudspeakered around by the hungry press, and found this in the comments:

GeekGirl72NEW21 hours ago
This is not the entire story. A physically handicapped female bumped into one of the females in the 25-party. The women then proceeded to insult and scream at the physically handicapped female. The female was very confused and frightened. NOT because of race but because she was unable to understand. The table for this party had already been setup and was in the section that I was seated in. They were going to seat this party but then they became louder and more socially inappropriate to staff and consumers walking in the door after the incident listed above occurred.
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ttwtt78640 said:
:lol: :doh Is that now clear justification for SYG? :roll:

I find your statement even more scary. The establishment in question is not a library called Mild Wings. ;)
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Harshaw said:
You are entirely oblivious to the self-contradiction here, aren't you? "I'm not saying it's racism, but it's racism."
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Dr. Chuckles said:
I think you need to look up assumption and meditate how it might relate to you projecting your "voice of experience" onto this situation without supporting evidence .......
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Life is not as black and white as you guys seem to need it to be. Like in just about every other instance in our lives there is probably responsibility on both sides for what happened here. They were probably being loud and yes,....loud black people scare most white people. As much as many of you would like to pretend it's all made up, racism DOES exist and denying it will not make it go away and it certainly will not give anyone cause to stop screaming about it. Instead of whining and denying man up and acknowledge.
 
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opendebate said:
Life is not as black and white as you guys seem to need it to be. Like in just about every other instance in our lives there is probably responsibility on both sides for what happened here. They were probably being loud and yes,....loud black people scare most white people. As much as many of you would like to pretend it's all made up, racism DOES exist and denying it will not make it go away and it certainly will not give anyone cause to stop screaming about it. Instead of whining and denying man up and acknowledge.
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You are right racism does exist but people don't have to put up with it wnem they are eating in a resturant, even white people.
 
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Mason66 said:
You are right racism does exist but people don't have to put up with it wnem they are eating in a resturant, even white people.
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What does that even mean
 
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opendebate said:
Life is not as black and white as you guys seem to need it to be. Like in just about every other instance in our lives there is probably responsibility on both sides for what happened here. They were probably being loud and yes,....loud black people scare most white people. As much as many of you would like to pretend it's all made up, racism DOES exist and denying it will not make it go away and it certainly will not give anyone cause to stop screaming about it. Instead of whining and denying man up and acknowledge.
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Ummm, I'm pretty sure that YOU are the only one referenced in your post who's made up your mind about what's happened here, making your first sentence pretty high-larious. Everyone else is waiting for more evidence.

To quote someone near and dear to you:

opendebate said:
I'm guessing that they were loud. White people find loud black people scary. End of story.
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At no point, despite your lip service to it, have you demonstrated anything remotely approaching an open mind. You've decided what happened, and that's it.
 
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Peter King said:
If you are having a celebratory dinner than I doubt they would make such a fuss that the police had to come to throw them out.
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What I'm saying is, a group of black people would be furious if they were asked to leave and they thought it was racial. The police would have to be called to keep the order. This would be a much larger story if it happened the way he said it happened.
 
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Harshaw said:
Ummm, I'm pretty sure that YOU are the only one referenced in your post who's made up your mind about what's happened here, making your first sentence pretty high-larious. Everyone else is waiting for more evidence.

To quote someone near and dear to you

At no point, despite your lip service to it, have you demonstrated anything remotely approaching an open mind. You've decided what happened, and that's it.
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Screaming at me in an effort to get me to accept YOUR version of what I think is pretty weak.

I think there is a good "possibility" that her decision to ask them to leave was based on her assumptions about what kind of behavior they were capable of. It is also a "possibility" that what she thought they were capable, the level of threat if you will, was influenced by the fact that they were black. I don't KNOW that. I have opinions until I get more facts, like anyone else. My opinions however are fluid until I get facts. Then I can make make up my mind.
 
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mak2 said:
Two hours is a long time not to turn over 25 seats.
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recently we reserved 25-30 seats in a restaurant for three hours for a rehearsal dinner ... are we sure it wasn't one of those deals?
 
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opendebate said:
Screaming at me in an effort to get me to accept YOUR version of what I think is pretty weak.
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Claiming I "screamed" at you because your own words betray you is even weaker than that would have been had I actually done it. This is nothing more than a deflection.

You're accusing others of having closed minds when it's you who are the one who has actually demonstrated it. You've made up your mind; you should just say so. I'm not trying to get you to "accept" anything; I'm just holding you to your own words and your own contradictions.

If you would prefer I don't, then stop making them.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
The entire thing smells like made up BS to me.

If it did happen: I see 'a customer complaint' as an excuse by management to dodge a blow. . . because since WHEN does any restaurant kick out '24 well behaving PAYING patrons' because ONE PERSON claimed they felt threatened?
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Since when do businesses turn away customers to appease a certain demographic?

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Oh... right.
 
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I doubt we really know enough to be sure of anything. But this is an internet forum were we talk about stuff we dont usually know everything about.
windowdressing said:
recently we reserved 25-30 seats in a restaurant for three hours for a rehearsal dinner ... are we sure it wasn't one of those deals?
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I bet the Rex would have been the most fun.
 
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opendebate said:
Life is not as black and white as you guys seem to need it to be.
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lol, how do you get an indication of something being "black and white" when my argument is that there is no evidence indicating the thing you are claiming?

As much as many of you would like to pretend it's all made up, racism DOES exist and denying it will not make it go away and it certainly will not give anyone cause to stop screaming about it. Instead of whining and denying man up and acknowledge.
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lol, again, where did I deny racism existing? What I am doing is pointing out there is nothing supporting your assumptions here
 
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opendebate said:
Screaming at me in an effort to get me to accept YOUR version of what I think is pretty weak.
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lol, it's based on what you have posted here
 
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Hatuey said:
Since when do businesses turn away customers to appease a certain demographic?

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Oh... right.
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oh right is right. your 3rd image says it all. note the date: march 1921
 
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mak2 said:
I bet the Rex would have been the most fun.
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I just find it odd that these people keep saying things similar to: "SINCE WHEN HAVE PEOPLE BEEN TURNED AWAY BECAUSE OF SKIN COLOR"?
 
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*view of a monday morning quarterback*

this situation appears to have been poorly handled by management and the disgruntled patrons

based on the waitress' comments, space was being made for a party of two dozen people. that was good. but why not seat those waiting as the seats became available instead of waiting to seat the whole party at once. that would have demonstrated that efforts were being made to seat them. and an ever fewer number of their group would have had to wait in line, unattended. a fewer number to remain disgruntled ... a fewer number to be provocative with the other guests

and a party of two dozen who make no reservations and expect to be seated together during prime time
absurd
you were not not-seated because you were black but because you were stupid - stupid not to have made advance arrangements

and yes, it was racial. diners in a public restaurant should not be subjected to disparaging terms like nigger, mother ****er, ****, bitch, bastard ... . exercise civil behavior. unfortunately, too many seem not to understand what that is. don't care what your color is or what culture you come from. act respectful if you expect to be treated respectably

final point. why reward inappropriate behavior? if the prospective patrons were not behaving properly, do not 'reward' them with comp food/beverages. that only allows them to then believe they had a legitimate reason to feel 'victimized'. if your establishment needs to cultivate a relationship with such customers, then your business' future is certainly bleak


any waitresses/waiters/bar tenders here care to predict what the total tip would have been from the group
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Everything's racist to you all of a sudden.

Why don't you want to stop, pull back, and consider that maybe it didn't happen (either at all - or as this one customer says it did). What made his one post irrefutable proof, to you?

I still stand by my belief that there's no proof it even happened.
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It is ridiculous to think for a moment that this was made up. Maybe you mean, they saw racism when it wasn't there? Is that what you are saying?
 
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opendebate said:
I'm guessing that they were loud. White people find loud black people scary. End of story.
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Maybe you do.
White people I know aren't "scared" of negroes. The only ones who should fear them are old women alone, old men alone, young kids alone, and any (unarmed) white woman alone amongst them.

I just take the safety off.
 
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Peter King said:
Right as the country commemorates the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, people are flocking to social media to condemn a South Carolina restaurant for its allegedly racist actions.

According to CBS affiliate WCSC-TV, Michael Brown and 24 of his family and friends were at Wild Wing Cafe celebrating his cousin's final day in Charleston, S.C., last month when the group was suddenly told to leave.

The reason? The shift manager allegedly told Brown that a white customer felt "threatened" by his party. When one of Brown's companions started filming the exchange, the shift manager is said to have told the group to leave.

"[That] totally alarmed all of us because we're sitting there peaceably for two hours," Brown told the news outlet.

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"I had a dream" where restaurants would not turn away black diners who were waiting peacefully for 2 hours to get seated because "1 white customer felt threatened". Sorry, but this is just horrible. The last day's dinner of these people was ruined because of the unreasonable feelings of 1 diner in a restaurant.

I blame the manager for this disaster. She should have reasoned with the "fearful" customer and solved this. This is a public image nightmare for this company due to intolerance and what looks like racism on a weekend that was the 50th anniversary of the march on Washington and one of the most monumental events in the civil rights struggle.

I also wonder, whether the same would have happened if 1 black person had complained he/she felt threatened by a large group of white people.
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The feeling threatened thing is pretty stupid, but I definitely would've booted them for the noise. Large groups of black people do put up such a racket.
 
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Peter King said:
They had been in the restaurant for 2 hours, if they were acting badly they would have been thrown out long before that.

The story from Live5news writes that they were regular customers. There is no indication that they were misbehaving and were just refused because someone felt threatened by the group of black people. The story also says it was 1 guest who felt threatened, if they were an actual threat more diners would have felt threatened and we have no evidence of this happening.

If they have were problem customers they would not have been offered free meals but they would have been told it was your fault so please don't come to our restaurant ever again.
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We only know one side of the story, too.
 
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P. Kersey said:
Maybe you do.
White people I know aren't "scared" of negroes. The only ones who should fear them are old women alone, old men alone, young kids alone, and women alone amongst them.

I just take the safety off.
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yes. you carry because you are not afraid
got it
 
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