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Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threa[W:423]

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tererun said:
They got tossed for supposedly threatening people, or being threatening to people, not for failing to make a reservation. Keep swinging, there is still a lot of racism to blow away.
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Everything's racist to you all of a sudden.

Why don't you want to stop, pull back, and consider that maybe it didn't happen (either at all - or as this one customer says it did). What made his one post irrefutable proof, to you?

I still stand by my belief that there's no proof it even happened.
 
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Mathematician said:
The article has no details about how the group was acting. They want to give the impression that the other customer felt threatened purely because they were black. However, I've seen multiple instances where a group would describe themselves as acting normal and I would have described them as rather rowdy. There could have also been a particular action or something said by one in the group that triggered the other customer's concern.
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The group had been waiting for a table for two hours. If they were rowdy, the mgmt should have said something to them long before that
 
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sangha said:
The group had been waiting for a table for two hours. If they were rowdy, the mgmt should have said something to them long before that
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Maybe they were afraid of this exact situation happening - being accused of being racist because they couldn't be seated.

But seriously - I fail to grasp how a group of people would happily wait two hours, outside, for anything. Who does that? That's entirely illogical.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
That is very racist of you.
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No, it isn't, Aunt Spiker. tererun is calling a spade a spade. As a white person, I have the undeserved privilege of this news story simply being that--a news story. To deny the mere existence of this white privilege, let alone to do anything about it, enables the problem.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Maybe they were afraid of this exact situation happening - being accused of being racist because they couldn't be seated.

But seriously - I fail to grasp how a group of people would happily wait two hours, outside, for anything. Who does that? That's entirely illogical.
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i personally would not wait for so long, but I know that there are people who do that. In addition, most restaurants are not equipped to handle a walk-in party of 25. They may have waited thinking that no one else would be able to accommodate their group.

If the restaurant had a valid reason for denying them service, then why would they offer the people a free meal?
 
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Peter King said:
Right as the country commemorates the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, people are flocking to social media to condemn a South Carolina restaurant for its allegedly racist actions.

According to CBS affiliate WCSC-TV, Michael Brown and 24 of his family and friends were at Wild Wing Cafe celebrating his cousin's final day in Charleston, S.C., last month when the group was suddenly told to leave.

The reason? The shift manager allegedly told Brown that a white customer felt "threatened" by his party. When one of Brown's companions started filming the exchange, the shift manager is said to have told the group to leave.

"[That] totally alarmed all of us because we're sitting there peaceably for two hours," Brown told the news outlet.

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"I had a dream" where restaurants would not turn away black diners who were waiting peacefully for 2 hours to get seated because "1 white customer felt threatened". Sorry, but this is just horrible. The last day's dinner of these people was ruined because of the unreasonable feelings of 1 diner in a restaurant.

I blame the manager for this disaster. She should have reasoned with the "fearful" customer and solved this. This is a public image nightmare for this company due to intolerance and what looks like racism on a weekend that was the 50th anniversary of the march on Washington and one of the most monumental events in the civil rights struggle.

I also wonder, whether the same would have happened if 1 black person had complained he/she felt threatened by a large group of white people.
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Why wasn't the one white customer kicked out? Seems like bad managing.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
So, you were there. You saw what went on.
If they started to "document" the event. Many businesses dont allow for video or filming on their property.
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That's it! They were asked to leave after they started filming the incident and the manager got upset.

This business has the right to refuse service to anyone, case closed.

If this group of black rowdies thinks they were discriminated against, let them call their buddy, Eric Holder, at the Department of Justice.
 
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MaggieD said:
I remember a friend of ours who bought tickets to a buffet dinner at Hawthorne Race Track, Cicero, Illinois. The buffet was being run by a church. She bought six tickets and we were among those she invited. When we got there, we were all asked to leave. We were the only white faces among a sea of black. The pastor apologized, told us to come get our food (he escorted us) and to please please go to another level to enjoy it. He was afraid his congregation would cause us problems.

We laughed our asses off, thanked the pastor and did just that. It happens. But I don't believe it happened at Buffalo Wild Wings based on this account.
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Haven't you been listening to the black activist? Only whites can be racist; blacks are incapable of such action.
 
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Texmex said:
That's it! They were asked to leave after they started filming the incident and the manager got upset.

This business has the right to refuse service to anyone, case closed.

If this group of black rowdies thinks they were discriminated against, let them call their buddy, Eric Holder, at the Department of Justice.
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Nice touch of racism. Ditto your avatar. George Wallace would be proud.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
But seriously - I fail to grasp how a group of people would happily wait two hours, outside, for anything. Who does that? That's entirely illogical.
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I think the psychology of it works like this: If they knew ahead of time it would be two hours, they wouldn't do it. It is the expectation they may be seated at any moment that keeps them waiting and the longer they wait, the more they have invested in the process. It all works incrementally.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
The entire thing smells like made up BS to me.

If it did happen: I see 'a customer complaint' as an excuse by management to dodge a blow. . . because since WHEN does any restaurant kick out '24 well behaving PAYING patrons' because ONE PERSON claimed they felt threatened?

I'd like actual evidence it even happened. I wouldn't put it past someone to just make up a baseless accusation because they were peeved at the service (for no reason, even) - Evidence that it happened would be surveillance footage. We could then see:

1) How the group was behaving (if they were really there)
2) Another customer actually complained (if it really happened)
3) They were kicked out as a result of that complaint (if it really happened)

If it even happened at all - it just might be a made up story beginning to end - which I think it is. Who in the hell supposedly waits for two hours to eat, anyway? That's the gist - they weren't even IN the restaurant. What were they supposedly doing? Chilling out in the parking lot for two hours? I don't think so - who in the hell would DO THAT?

There is no evidence - this all started because of a Facebook post . . . and I'm not going to be the idiot who believes any of it without any sort of PROOF.

Restaurants send away people who misbehave.
They send away people because they are a group of TWENTY FOUR waiting for 2 hours and there's still no seating for TWENTY FOUR people. (This is what I expect happened - and the race/customer complaint is made up. If it happened at all).

I just don't believe any of it. . . sounds like he's full of **** and trying to incite a race riot.

Is this what we've come down to - believing anything that's on the internet as if it's some sort of truth.
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Well said and I agree. Something does not pass the smell test.
 
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Moot said:
Of course they wouldn't, it's South Carolina the state that started the Civil War.
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South Carolina didn't "start the war of federal tyranny"...what you call the "civil war".
lincoln started it by sending troops to invade a sovereign country, the C.S.A.

and I'd be glad to prove it to you but not by hijacking this thread. Shall we start another thread to discuss this?
 
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Phys251 said:
Nice touch of racism. Ditto your avatar. George Wallace would be proud.
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I have eaten in restaurants with large groups of blacks; they are usually rowdy. I don't complain, I finish my meal and leave. The same thing if the rowdy group is Mexican or white. I like to eat in peace, not needing ear plugs.
 
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Texmex said:
I have eaten in restaurants with large groups of blacks;
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Ah, yes, the old "I hang out with blacks therefore I'm not racist" defense.

they are usually rowdy. I don't complain, I finish my meal and leave. The same thing if the rowdy group is Mexican or white. I like to eat in peace, not needing ear plugs.
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Then if race has nothing to do with such a decision, why are you interjecting it into this discussion?
 
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Yeah, this seems like a very awful situation. The manager of the restaurant completely mishandled the affair and the black people who were denied service have every right to be angry to feel that they were discriminated against.
 
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Phys251 said:
Ah, yes, the old "I hang out with blacks therefore I'm not racist" defense.
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I never said I hang out with blacks, in fact I avoid them. I have the right to hang out with whoever I want, not who you think I should.

Then if race has nothing to do with such a decision, why are you interjecting it into this discussion?
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The entire premise of the thread involves this group being black. Do try and keep up.
 
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Gardener said:
Seems to me that in any discussion like this one, people line up on one side who very much want it to be racism and people line up on another who very much want to deny/disprove any racism. Were the races reversed , many of the same people would flip their preconceptions accordingly.

When I looked at the pics of the people involved, they hardly looked like gangbangers or anything -- just normal folks, and so I'm having a hard time seeing them as threatening. Who knows what their behavior was like, but I'm sure willing to believe them. I'm also willing to believe there were other factors involved, but without more info, it's impossible to know what really happened.
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What about those claiming that there isn't enough data right now to really draw an educated conclusion?
 
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Texmex said:
I never said I hang out with blacks, in fact I avoid them. .
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Considering the obviousness of your unintelligent bigotry, I can't imagine too many who would want to hang out with you.
 
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Rainman05 said:
Yeah, this seems like a very awful situation. The manager of the restaurant completely mishandled the affair and the black people who were denied service have every right to be angry to feel that they were discriminated against.
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Well damn, lets just hang anyone working at the wings place that night.
Offer their heads up to the gods of race and have all us white people beg for forgivness.
 
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Ikari said:
What about those claiming that there isn't enough data right now to really draw an educated conclusion?
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Impossible, blacks are making a charge of discrimination. Must be true.
 
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Ikari said:
What about those claiming that there isn't enough data right now to really draw an educated conclusion?
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Those are the reasonable ones without preconceptions.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Impossible, blacks are making a charge of discrimination. Must be true.
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Impossible, blacks are making a charge of discrimination. Must be false
 
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Texmex said:
I never said I hang out with blacks, in fact I avoid them. I have the right to hang out with whoever I want, not who you think I should.
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At least you're honest about this. Few things annoy me more than people with prejudice denying their prejudice.

The entire premise of the thread involves this group being black. Do try and keep up.
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Phys251 said:
No, it isn't, Aunt Spiker. tererun is calling a spade a spade. As a white person, I have the undeserved privilege of this news story simply being that--a news story. To deny the mere existence of this white privilege, let alone to do anything about it, enables the problem.
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You too?

I see no proof it happened that isn't hearsay - once I see proof it happened - which isn't hearsay - then I can asses the situation. Right now there are so many unknown elements, no one can make a call one way or the other.

I just seems like common sense to me to gather all of the information, first, before deciding my response. Whereas some people don't want to wait for anything at all, and instead, are going straight for a boycott.

When did seeking out more evidence of a crime or injustice become racist? Why, since it's a situation involving possible racism, then the investigate-and-undercover facts approach to crime and justice go out the window?

That makes no sense - imagine if we did that in response to every accusation that was raised.
 
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Gardener said:
Considering the obviousness of your unintelligent bigotry, I can't imagine too many who would want to hang out with you.
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I don't feel the need to succumb to political correctness. I don't go out looking for friends of a particular color in order to prove to those who don't know me that I am not a racist. I have worked with blacks in machine shops most of my career. We got along, had a good time and, God forbid, even enjoyed lunch together. Just because they never invited me to their houses did not make me think they were racist. The fact that they spent more time with those of their own color did not make me think they were racist, just like none of them ever accused me of racism. Now someone like you comes along and after reading a few words I posted makes this claim. Just why should I care at all what someone like you thinks of me?
 
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