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Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threa[W:423]

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The entire thing smells like made up BS to me.

If it did happen: I see 'a customer complaint' as an excuse by management to dodge a blow. . . because since WHEN does any restaurant kick out '24 well behaving PAYING patrons' because ONE PERSON claimed they felt threatened?

I'd like actual evidence it even happened. I wouldn't put it past someone to just make up a baseless accusation because they were peeved at the service (for no reason, even) - Evidence that it happened would be surveillance footage. We could then see:

1) How the group was behaving (if they were really there)
2) Another customer actually complained (if it really happened)
3) They were kicked out as a result of that complaint (if it really happened)

If it even happened at all - it just might be a made up story beginning to end - which I think it is. Who in the hell supposedly waits for two hours to eat, anyway? That's the gist - they weren't even IN the restaurant. What were they supposedly doing? Chilling out in the parking lot for two hours? I don't think so - who in the hell would DO THAT?

There is no evidence - this all started because of a Facebook post . . . and I'm not going to be the idiot who believes any of it without any sort of PROOF.

Restaurants send away people who misbehave.
They send away people because they are a group of TWENTY FOUR waiting for 2 hours and there's still no seating for TWENTY FOUR people. (This is what I expect happened - and the race/customer complaint is made up. If it happened at all).

I just don't believe any of it. . . sounds like he's full of **** and trying to incite a race riot.

Is this what we've come down to - believing anything that's on the internet as if it's some sort of truth.
 
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shrubnose said:
There are a lot of places to eat in the USA.

Why would anyone wait two hours to get a meal?
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Maybe because they were regulars, they liked the food and maybe because it is not that easy to sit a party of 25 and they were told that they could be seated there.
 
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tererun said:
There was race involved. If there was a threat or an altercation there would have been police involvement. Some person feeling threatened because they have to sit near black people is pure racism.
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Were you there? Was the group of 25 acting as "peaceably" as they say. Or is it their word against someone elses.
And you are just automatically taking the black family's side?
 
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shrubnose said:
There are a lot of places to eat in the USA.

Why would anyone wait two hours to get a meal?
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Gather up 25 of you and your friends and family and see how many chain resturtants and seat you at the drop of the hat.
Most chain resturants dont have any seating for 25 in one place at one time.
And wait for 2 hours? Sure, if the plan was to get the resturant in some sort of trouble. Be asked to leave, or told there is not enough room. Bam, instant facebook and twitter barrage and lawsuit coming.
Just like the "disabled" that go find theaters and resturants that have seating too close together or no elevator to the second floor or just the right hand rails.
 
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tererun said:
If they were that bad to which they needed to be tossed out and were threatening others the management would have called the police. It is the carolinas, and a rowdy black crowd who was threatening people would be something the police would have dealt with. The reason we know this is BS is because there was no police involvement because calling them for a false report would be a crime. I have been in a similar situation having been thrown out of an AL walmarrt for supposedly flashing a customer while in drag. When their security came up to me and asked me to leave they said a customer had complained i exposed myself to them. I told them they had cameras and if I had done it i would be under arrest and not asked to leave. In m case the situation went further as i complained as i left and they decided to call the police and tell them I was drunk and flashing people. That resulted in some charges and some firings at the store. You have to have a good reason to call the police, and a rowdy group of threatening black people would be a reasonable thing to call about if they were threatening. That is why they did not call because there was no threat.
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Please realize that there's no proof it even happened. This all started because of his Facebook post - nothing else.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
The entire thing smells like made up BS to me.

If it did happen: I see 'a customer complaint' as an excuse by management to dodge a blow. . . because since WHEN does any restaurant kick out '24 well behaving PAYING patrons' because ONE PERSON claimed they felt threatened?

I'd like actual evidence it even happened. I wouldn't put it past someone to just make up a baseless accusation because they were peeved at the service (for no reason, even) - Evidence that it happened would be surveillance footage. We could then see:

1) How the group was behaving (if they were really there)
2) Another customer actually complained (if it really happened)
3) They were kicked out as a result of that complaint (if it really happened)

If it even happened at all - it just might be a made up story beginning to end - which I think it is. Who in the hell supposedly waits for two hours to eat, anyway? That's the gist - they weren't even IN the restaurant. What were they supposedly doing? Chilling out in the parking lot for two hours? I don't think so - who in the hell would DO THAT?

There is no evidence - this all started because of a Facebook post . . . and I'm not going to be the idiot who believes any of it without any sort of PROOF.

Restaurants send away people who misbehave.
They send away people because they are a group of TWENTY FOUR waiting for 2 hours and there's still no seating for TWENTY FOUR people. (This is what I expect happened - and the race/customer complaint is made up. If it happened at all).

I just don't believe any of it. . . sounds like he's full of **** and trying to incite a race riot.

Is this what we've come down to - believing anything that's on the internet as if it's some sort of truth.
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:agree: with your great post! They would have to be offering something really unique for me to wait two hours for a table!

Greetings, Aunt Spiker! :2wave:
 
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Peter King said:
Right as the country commemorates the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, people are flocking to social media to condemn a South Carolina restaurant for its allegedly racist actions.

According to CBS affiliate WCSC-TV, Michael Brown and 24 of his family and friends were at Wild Wing Cafe celebrating his cousin's final day in Charleston, S.C., last month when the group was suddenly told to leave.

The reason? The shift manager allegedly told Brown that a white customer felt "threatened" by his party. When one of Brown's companions started filming the exchange, the shift manager is said to have told the group to leave.

"[That] totally alarmed all of us because we're sitting there peaceably for two hours," Brown told the news outlet.

Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threatened': Report

"I had a dream" where restaurants would not turn away black diners who were waiting peacefully for 2 hours to get seated because "1 white customer felt threatened". Sorry, but this is just horrible. The last day's dinner of these people was ruined because of the unreasonable feelings of 1 diner in a restaurant.

I blame the manager for this disaster. She should have reasoned with the "fearful" customer and solved this. This is a public image nightmare for this company due to intolerance and what looks like racism on a weekend that was the 50th anniversary of the march on Washington and one of the most monumental events in the civil rights struggle.

I also wonder, whether the same would have happened if 1 black person had complained he/she felt threatened by a large group of white people.
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It could very well be a case of racism, but we really only have one side of the story here. Perhaps we should get it all before we start jumping to conclusions?

It would seem odd that a restaurant would kick people out because someone felt threatened. It could be the decision came once the party started recording the event and that without that they wouldn't have been asked to leave. It could be that perhaps there was some interaction between the other patrons and this group. It could be a straight up act of unabashed racism.
 
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Peter King said:
Right as the country commemorates the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, people are flocking to social media to condemn a South Carolina restaurant for its allegedly racist actions.

According to CBS affiliate WCSC-TV, Michael Brown and 24 of his family and friends were at Wild Wing Cafe celebrating his cousin's final day in Charleston, S.C., last month when the group was suddenly told to leave.

The reason? The shift manager allegedly told Brown that a white customer felt "threatened" by his party. When one of Brown's companions started filming the exchange, the shift manager is said to have told the group to leave.

"[That] totally alarmed all of us because we're sitting there peaceably for two hours," Brown told the news outlet.

Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threatened': Report

"I had a dream" where restaurants would not turn away black diners who were waiting peacefully for 2 hours to get seated because "1 white customer felt threatened". Sorry, but this is just horrible. The last day's dinner of these people was ruined because of the unreasonable feelings of 1 diner in a restaurant.

I blame the manager for this disaster. She should have reasoned with the "fearful" customer and solved this. This is a public image nightmare for this company due to intolerance and what looks like racism on a weekend that was the 50th anniversary of the march on Washington and one of the most monumental events in the civil rights struggle.

I also wonder, whether the same would have happened if 1 black person had complained he/she felt threatened by a large group of white people.
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I agree with Auntie here. There's something not right about this story.

Why on God's Green Earth would a party of 24 wait two hours to be seated?? That just isn't plausible.

But let's say it is true for sake of argument. What manager in their right mind would then say to them, after their waiting two freakin' hours!! "I'm sorry, we have to ask you to leave. One of our diners feels threatened by your presence." ??? Wouldn't a manager be more likely to say, "You know what? We just can't accommodate you this evening. I am SOOO sorry. We'd like to offer your entire party a free coupon for a free order of wings of their choice and a pitcher of beer for a visit another time."

If Buffalo Wild Wings isn't turning tables in two hours, I'll eat my chicken wings. This story is bull****.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Were you there? Was the group of 25 acting as "peaceably" as they say. Or is it their word against someone elses.
And you are just automatically taking the black family's side?
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No, I am evaluating what happens in reality
 
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Peter King said:
Right as the country commemorates the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, people are flocking to social media to condemn a South Carolina restaurant for its allegedly racist actions.

According to CBS affiliate WCSC-TV, Michael Brown and 24 of his family and friends were at Wild Wing Cafe celebrating his cousin's final day in Charleston, S.C., last month when the group was suddenly told to leave.

The reason? The shift manager allegedly told Brown that a white customer felt "threatened" by his party. When one of Brown's companions started filming the exchange, the shift manager is said to have told the group to leave.

"[That] totally alarmed all of us because we're sitting there peaceably for two hours," Brown told the news outlet.

Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threatened': Report

"I had a dream" where restaurants would not turn away black diners who were waiting peacefully for 2 hours to get seated because "1 white customer felt threatened". Sorry, but this is just horrible. The last day's dinner of these people was ruined because of the unreasonable feelings of 1 diner in a restaurant.

I blame the manager for this disaster. She should have reasoned with the "fearful" customer and solved this. This is a public image nightmare for this company due to intolerance and what looks like racism on a weekend that was the 50th anniversary of the march on Washington and one of the most monumental events in the civil rights struggle.

I also wonder, whether the same would have happened if 1 black person had complained he/she felt threatened by a large group of white people.
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:roll:
 
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tererun said:
No, I am evaluating what happens in reality
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So, you were there. You saw what went on.
If they started to "document" the event. Many businesses dont allow for video or filming on their property.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Please realize that there's no proof it even happened. This all started because of his Facebook post - nothing else.
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You are really trying to pretend this doesn't happen? Ok, I guess there is the possibility it is all fabricated, but you telling yourself that really shows you are burrying the problem.
 
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tererun said:
You are really trying to pretend this doesn't happen? Ok, I guess there is the possibility it is all fabricated, but you telling yourself that really shows you are burrying the problem.
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You have evidence? Am I missing something, here? (Genuine question). Because all the reading I did this morning just pointed back to his Facebook post.

Maybe its too early, who knows, and so I'll wait for more facts to come out (if there are any).

Right now, as it stands, there is no proof that it actually happened. This is being catalogued with "The woman who carved an O into her cheek" and "The other woman who supposedly pulled out all of someone's teeth."

If it happened, it shouldn't take very long for reporters to uncover truths and event verification - like eye witnesses, etc. It's a pretty serious issue. Then, upon receiving further proof, I'll consider any sort of truth in anyone's accusations and statements.
 
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tererun said:
You are really trying to pretend this doesn't happen? Ok, I guess there is the possibility it is all fabricated, but you telling yourself that really shows you are burrying the problem.
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I remember a friend of ours who bought tickets to a buffet dinner at Hawthorne Race Track, Cicero, Illinois. The buffet was being run by a church. She bought six tickets and we were among those she invited. When we got there, we were all asked to leave. We were the only white faces among a sea of black. The pastor apologized, told us to come get our food (he escorted us) and to please please go to another level to enjoy it. He was afraid his congregation would cause us problems.

We laughed our asses off, thanked the pastor and did just that. It happens. But I don't believe it happened at Buffalo Wild Wings based on this account.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
So, you were there. You saw what went on.
If they started to "document" the event. Many businesses dont allow for video or filming on their property.
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keep swinging. maybe someday you will wave away the stench of racism.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
You have evidence? Am I missing something, here? (Genuine question). Because all the reading I did this morning just pointed back to his Facebook post.

Maybe its too early, who knows, and so I'll wait for more facts to come out (if there are any).

Right now, as it stands, there is no proof that it actually happened. This is being catalogued with "The woman who carved an O into her cheek" and "The other woman who supposedly pulled out all of someone's teeth."

If it happened, it shouldn't take very long for reporters to uncover truths and event verification - like eye witnesses, etc. It's a pretty serious issue. Then, upon receiving further proof, I'll consider any sort of truth in anyone's accusations and statements.
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That is very white of you.
 
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MaggieD said:
I remember a friend of ours who bought tickets to a buffet dinner at Hawthorne Race Track, Cicero, Illinois. The buffet was being run by a church. She bought six tickets and we were among those she invited. When we got there, we were all asked to leave. We were the only white faces among a sea of black. The pastor apologized, told us to come get our food (he escorted us) and to please please go to another level to enjoy it. He was afraid his congregation would cause us problems.

We laughed our asses off, thanked the pastor and did just that. It happens. But I don't believe it happened at Buffalo Wild Wings based on this account.
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If they are lying that is pathetic.
 
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I believe it happened. /shrug
 
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Seems to me that in any discussion like this one, people line up on one side who very much want it to be racism and people line up on another who very much want to deny/disprove any racism. Were the races reversed , many of the same people would flip their preconceptions accordingly.

When I looked at the pics of the people involved, they hardly looked like gangbangers or anything -- just normal folks, and so I'm having a hard time seeing them as threatening. Who knows what their behavior was like, but I'm sure willing to believe them. I'm also willing to believe there were other factors involved, but without more info, it's impossible to know what really happened.
 
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tererun said:
keep swinging. maybe someday you will wave away the stench of racism.
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I know, blacks never ever do anything that is questionable or agitating.
24 people, no reservation, at a chain resturant. Yea, OK.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
I know, blacks never ever do anything that is questionable or agitating.
24 people, no reservation, at a chain resturant. Yea, OK.
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They got tossed for supposedly threatening people, or being threatening to people, not for failing to make a reservation. Keep swinging, there is still a lot of racism to blow away.
 
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tererun said:
That is very white of you.
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That is very racist of you.

I imagined, if there was solid proof that this even happened, you would have been able to provide it instead of trying to offend me (which, by the way, didn't work).

This is a debate forum - where we frequently ask and seek out evidence, verifiable facts, and proof - before we believe anything that comes down the grapevine. I consider this approach to be the more mature way to approach just about anything.

If it happened, there WILL be verifiable proof, and then I can form a more solid response based on that. At the moment, it's just an unsupported accusation from one individual, though it supposedly affected dozens of people.

I'll throw you a curve ball: what evidence do you have that this guy who claimed this on Facebook IS EVEN BLACK? In the last few years people have stooped to some pretty low and insane measures to contrive race issues where there were none. See - you have to dig deep to verify and find proof, which is what reports SHOULD be doing seeing as how I, from my living room, can only read what they uncover.
 
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tererun said:
They got tossed for supposedly threatening people, or being threatening to people, not for failing to make a reservation. Keep swinging, there is still a lot of racism to blow away.
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Try some common sense once in your life and not be a hyper sensitive race monger.
You and 20 some people walk into a chain (deep pockets) resturant and see how it works out.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
That is very racist of you.

I imagined, if there was solid proof that this even happened, you would have been able to provide it instead of trying to offend me (which, by the way, didn't work).

This is a debate forum - where we frequently ask and seek out evidence, verifiable facts, and proof - before we believe anything that comes down the grapevine. I consider this approach to be the more mature way to approach just about anything.

If it happened, there WILL be verifiable proof, and then I can form a more solid response based on that. At the moment, it's just an unsupported accusation from one individual, though it supposedly affected dozens of people.

I'll throw you a curve ball: what evidence do you have that this guy who claimed this on Facebook IS EVEN BLACK? In the last few years people have stooped to some pretty low and insane measures to contrive race issues where there were none. See - you have to dig deep to verify and find proof, which is what reports SHOULD be doing seeing as how I, from my living room, can only read what they uncover.
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Here's the Charleston Facebook page. There's not much on here except clear evidence from much earlier posts that they value their AA customers. https://www.facebook.com/bdubsncharleston

I'm betting this is a bunch of bull****. Or certainly didn't happen the way it was portrayed.
 
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