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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    lol

    I wholeheartedly agree, in this case.
    really. all these white guilt fairies running around apologizing and feeling guilty about **** that happened half a century ago and longer (before many of them were even born). Why anyone would feel guilt over something they had no part in is just plain retarded.
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    guilt is for pussies
    guilt and social responsibility are not the same thing

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    really. all these white guilt fairies running around apologizing and feeling guilty about **** that happened half a century ago and longer (before many of them were even born). Why anyone would feel guilt over something they had no part in is just plain retarded.
    One thing I have NEVER seen is a black person hold a press conference to publicly apologize and profess that he / she is seeking counseling and fully accepts the ridiculous fine levied for a racial statement he / she made.

    That all you see is white people doing this and it being slammed down your throat that YOU ARE A RACIST because they were once enslaved creates the guilt.

    Hell, I'll probably be called a racist for pointing this out and the guilt trip continues.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    guilt and social responsibility are not the same thing
    "Social responsibility".
    Would that be like a person or a group refraining from bad behavior because it harms society, for instance?

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    guilt and social responsibility are not the same thing
    and? for how many generations must we pay for the sins of someone else's fathers before it is enough?
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    "Social responsibility".
    Would that be like a person or a group refraining from bad behavior because it harms society, for instance?
    funny how they want to stereotype and hold ALL white people responsible for the acts of some white people committed 30, 40, 50, 100, 150, 300, 500 years ago, but they piss themselves and scream "racism" if anyone dares stereotype a young black male for the actions of other young black males committed yesterday, the day before, last week, last month, last year.
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and? for how many generations must we pay for the sins of someone else's fathers before it is enough?
    Until you stop benefiting from the sins of those fathers.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Until you stop benefiting from the sins of those fathers.
    What's the date on that?
    Specifically which "sins"?
    When did these "sins" occur?
    Can you describe them for me?
    How can you tell which people's fathers sinned?

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Why thank you. I know what you are getting at with trusting their judgement, and your opinion about them earning it.
    I'll try to rephrase it. I'll start by explaining it better.


    Person A) Believed, because you were a different skin color (we will use black and white), that your words and actions and opinions towards them were racist, regardless how how unambigously not racist they may seem to you. You would not have the freedom to speak freely for fear of being called a racist. You would have that sense of guilt which I previously described.

    Person B) Simply viewed you as another person and did not jump to conclusions of racism simply because you disagreed with them or pointed out difference in their culture and yours.

    Which person would you be more likely to feel racist towards? If you were constantly presented with person A and constantly saw examples of person A in the media, would you begin to feel racist (even though you aren't?) Would you feel guilt even though you should not? Would you feel a sense of racism towards them in return for labeling you a racist?

    I hope this clears up my question.
    It does. It sounds as if you are trying to justify your racist attitudes from a position of defensiveness. You are offended that claims of racism, in your opinion abound, but what if it is abundant? I understand this being off-putting but try to look beyond your emotional response to what the reality may be. That would be my suggestion.

    What do you have to lose by considering this as reality?

    The black community in 2013 is at the pinnacle of their sensitivity to racism.
    Another possibility is that many in the white community are hypersensitive to hearing it.

    A lot of progress has been made to gain equality and a lot of people have suffered and sacrificed to gain that progress.
    Agreed

    Now that equality has been gained
    Here is where we part ways again. Equality has not been gained. How would you know if it had? Unless you are the oppressed how would you know if oppression has ended?

    it is difficult to justify the cries of racism
    It really isn't difficult. Would you like examples?

    There is a mentality in the black community that it is 'us against everybody.'
    Some in the black community undoubtedly have this attitude. But why? You can not dismiss context. Environment evolves such attitudes. You really can't justify your position towards the black community by saying it is rooted in experience without giving permission for the same rationale to them.

    It has created an enormous amount of guilt for all other races (especially whites). Simply stating obvious cultural difference is now considered 'racist
    There is a difference between guilt and acknowledging your role as a community of people for injustices you have burdened others with and the cultural impact it has made. Obvious cultural differences are a little dangerous. It is pretty subjective stuff.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Hey opendebate..Post 574, please? to clarify a term for me?

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