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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Some good points.

    Think about this though:

    Who would you feel more racist towards?

    1.) People who don't assume you are being a racist for a very large percentage of things you do or ways you believe

    or,

    2.) People who do, and already think you are racist and turn things you do or ways you believe into racism before you even do said things or believe certain ways.
    Wow, someone who disagrees but actually listens. Impressive.

    I'm not sure I get your question though. sorry

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    I guess I misunderstood.

    I thought you meant when black people say something is "racist" they automatically deserve the benefit of the doubt.
    Know, I guess I did not say it very well.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    There's nothing to run from. That is a cold, hard fact that they commit a disproportionate amount of crime despite only being 13% of the population. They commit over half of all violent crime in the country and I posted FBI and Justice Dept stats proving it...several times.
    You said that black people are more likely to commit crimes. So you did say "something of the sort."

    You are running from what you said.


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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    You said that black people are more likely to commit crimes. So you did say "something of the sort."

    You are running from what you said.
    This is what YOU said. Not me.
    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    .... we should assume that blacks are criminals...

    I said that FBI statistics prove that they commit a disproportionate amount of crime despite only being 13% of the population. They commit over half of all violent crime in the country and I posted FBI and Justice Dept stats proving it.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Also, in context a "sensitivity" to racism makes sense. They've earned it, in my opinion.
    what have "they" (and by "they" I mean this specific group of people) done to earn it? what did Ivanka Trump do to "earn" her daddy's money?
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what have "they" (and by "they" I mean this specific group of people) done to earn it? what did Ivanka Trump do to "earn" her daddy's money?
    That analogy makes no sense

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    That analogy makes no sense
    sure it does. YOU can't earn anything for actions or situations endured by your ancestors. If "they" have earned it because blacks in the past were slaves or subject to jim crow laws or were discriminated against. Then I have "earned" the right to dislike black people because a black man stole a mule from my grandfather 60 years ago.


    so, again....what have "they" done to earn it?
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Wow, someone who disagrees but actually listens. Impressive.
    Why thank you. I know what you are getting at with trusting their judgement, and your opinion about them earning it.

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I'm not sure I get your question though. sorry
    I'll try to rephrase it. I'll start by explaining it better.

    The black community in 2013 is at the pinnacle of their sensitivity to racism. A lot of progress has been made to gain equality and a lot of people have suffered and sacrificed to gain that progress. I am happy that the progress was gained, because no group of people deserves to be treated in such a poor manner. Now that equality has been gained, it is difficult to justify the cries of racism. In America, the race card held by black people is very potent. It can get people fired, make people publicly apologize, get people fined, etc etc. There is a mentality in the black community that it is 'us against everybody.' It has created an enormous amount of guilt for all other races (especially whites). Simply stating obvious cultural difference is now considered 'racist.'

    The question, again.

    If you were presented with two people:

    Person A) Believed, because you were a different skin color (we will use black and white), that your words and actions and opinions towards them were racist, regardless how how unambigously not racist they may seem to you. You would not have the freedom to speak freely for fear of being called a racist. You would have that sense of guilt which I previously described.

    Person B) Simply viewed you as another person and did not jump to conclusions of racism simply because you disagreed with them or pointed out difference in their culture and yours.

    Which person would you be more likely to feel racist towards? If you were constantly presented with person A and constantly saw examples of person A in the media, would you begin to feel racist (even though you aren't?) Would you feel guilt even though you should not? Would you feel a sense of racism towards them in return for labeling you a racist?

    I hope this clears up my question.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Why thank you. I know what you are getting at with trusting their judgement, and your opinion about them earning it.



    I'll try to rephrase it. I'll start by explaining it better.

    The black community in 2013 is at the pinnacle of their sensitivity to racism. A lot of progress has been made to gain equality and a lot of people have suffered and sacrificed to gain that progress. I am happy that the progress was gained, because no group of people deserves to be treated in such a poor manner. Now that equality has been gained, it is difficult to justify the cries of racism. In America, the race card held by black people is very potent. It can get people fired, make people publicly apologize, get people fined, etc etc. There is a mentality in the black community that it is 'us against everybody.' It has created an enormous amount of guilt for all other races (especially whites). Simply stating obvious cultural difference is now considered 'racist.'

    The question, again.

    If you were presented with two people:

    Person A) Believed, because you were a different skin color (we will use black and white), that your words and actions and opinions towards them were racist, regardless how how unambigously not racist they may seem to you. You would not have the freedom to speak freely for fear of being called a racist. You would have that sense of guilt which I previously described.

    Person B) Simply viewed you as another person and did not jump to conclusions of racism simply because you disagreed with them or pointed out difference in their culture and yours.

    Which person would you be more likely to feel racist towards? If you were constantly presented with person A and constantly saw examples of person A in the media, would you begin to feel racist (even though you aren't?) Would you feel guilt even though you should not? Would you feel a sense of racism towards them in return for labeling you a racist?

    I hope this clears up my question.
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    guilt is for pussies
    lol

    I wholeheartedly agree, in this case.

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