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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Well my position on this story is that I believe it appears to have racist elements but can't know for certain until I learn more. People don't seem to realize that a little of each could be going on . Just because they were being loud and annoying (if that's true) it does not mean that racist attitudes were not present. All parties can be guilty of the behaviors of which they are accused simultaneously. That is most often the reality of how life plays out. It is almost never all this or all that. We often share responsibility.
    Your assumption of racism is seemingly based on the fact that we are discussing two different ethnic groups, and the preconceptions you hold of whites.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

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    You would say the same thing if we were talking about a lynching so I am pretty good where I am.
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Well, according to you all whites are prone to racism. I think people like you thrive on racism being involved in every decision white people make involving minorities. I don't believe this for a minute.
    Well you are mistaken. But I don't suppose the inaccuracies of your assumptions is something you care about either. I do not believe that all white people are prone to racism. I don't think that every member of ANY race should be painted with the same brush. When we post in this forum we do tend to generalize so I can understand how you may have gotten that impression. But no, I don't think that.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Like I have said before, there do not have to be white hoods and burning crosses present for behavior to be racist. It can be subtle and go unrecognized by the perpetrator even if they are someone who is conscientious.
    But your assumption that it was present is seemingly derived solely from the fact that the other group involved was white. Nothing else.

    The irony is under such circumstances you are doing the very thing your attempting to decry: casting immutable character traits based on nothing more than skin color. If anyone comes off as racist here, it's YOU and people like Disney Dude. Because instead of waiting for facts, you here "white patron" and assume racism. To you, there can be no other legitimate reason for such actions

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Your assumption of racism is seemingly based on the fact that we are discussing two different ethnic groups, and the preconceptions you hold of whites.
    First of all let's make sure you understand the definition of an assumption:
    a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.

    So there goes THAT accusation.

    You have very selective reading habits, if you haven't caught yet that I have an opinion subject to change until I get further information.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Well my position on this story is that I believe it appears to have racist elements......
    I'm sure that is your position.

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Just because they were being loud and annoying (if that's true) it does not mean that racist attitudes were not present.
    Yes..racists..they're everywhere all the time...in your mind.

    Look..the sun is shining outside..well, that just proves whites are racist.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    First of all let's make sure you understand the definition of an assumption:
    a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.
    And that is exactly what you keep doing.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    But your assumption that it was present is seemingly derived solely from the fact that the other group involved was white. Nothing else.

    The irony is under such circumstances you are doing the very thing your attempting to decry: casting immutable character traits based on nothing more than skin color. If anyone comes off as racist here, it's YOU and people like Disney Dude. Because instead of waiting for facts, you here "white patron" and assume racism. To you, there can be no other legitimate reason for such actions
    No, I am basing it on the information at hand regarding a white patrons behavior. Which is a white customer complained about the black customers behavior and felt threatened. Which, given what I know now about the way they were acting seems like a bit of an over-reation.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    No, I am basing it on the information at hand regarding a white patrons behavior. Which is a white customer complained about the black customers behavior and felt threatened. Which, given what I know now about the way they were acting seems like a bit of an over-reation.
    So . . . let's see the articles you read and what specifically in them leads you to your conclusions.
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Why do you assume it wouldn't be? You have no knowledge of the manager, the circumstances the request was made in, or restaurant policy. All you know is that it concerns two different ethnic groups, and your assumption based on that is : racism
    Having intimate experience in the restaurant industry, I can assume that there's something terribly wrong when a restaurant allows its' customers to have a say over where other customers are seated. I find it extremely odd, and a bit suspicious, that a restaurant would cite another customers request when it came to *their* decision on where to seat the party.
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