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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    So in other words it has no credibility. I thought as much since I could not find it anywhere. Thanks
    I wouldn't say it has no credibility, as I can understand why someone would not want to reveal their identity under such circumstances. But it's definitely questionable

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I remember you.

    It certainly could be based on other things. It just appears to me, based on what I know now, to be based on race. Those other scenarios are possible but not very probable. If new information comes to light, I have no problem adjusting for it.




    There are not that many possibilities and this is the most likely.
    why are they not probable? The guy who wrote the facebook post said his accusation was based on nothing more than the person complaining being white.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Who here thinks the sides would be reversed if a black business owner kicked out white customers? Or if an atheist business owner kicked out Christians?
    Of course it would be reversed...the Libbos would support and defend those business owners to the death.
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    It's not the most likely, you're talking about a very liberal city where racism isn't expected or tolerated. What's more likely is that a large group of over 20 people got agitated and that that agitation was spread to others after waiting to be seated for 2hrs, look into sociology and group dynamics specifically intergroup conflicts. You consistently oversimplify things when it comes to race, "they're black so it's most likely racism" I'm asking you to look deeper because it's not always about race and racism and due to the serious nature of the accusation it should not be used as the automatic go to explanation of the event unless you actually have evidence to prove that it's the cause.
    You know nothing about me. And your consistent need to chase me down and throw accusations at me is odd. I am anything but simple and my understanding of these situations are anything but simple. Your inability to understand says more about you than me.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IMO, it sounds like a colossal cluster **** on the part of the restaurant. I can't say that it was racist, but at best the restaurant staff handled *everything* in the worst way possible

    For one thing, when the group called ahead and said they had a large group coming, the staff should have asked how large and then told them how long it might take to seat them. It's called "managing expectations"

    If WWC can't handle such a large party, then the party should have been told. It looks like WWC can't handle such a large party without more notice. They should have said so.

    However, they didn't so it was WWC's burden to provide some service to customers, particularly since they had 25 loyal customers who were willing to wait for a long period of time. What kind of idiots let 25 loyal customers get pissed off at them in one fell swoop? It's idiotic

    The staff should have told the party that they were going to clear out a portion of the restaurant, but that would take a long time, and in the meantime, they would be seating smaller parties in the areas where they were not going to seat the party. This way, the party wouldn't get upset when they saw people getting seated before them, even though they arrived after they did.

    The staff should have kept in contact while the party was waiting for so long, if only to show a bit of service and that they weren't ignoring the party. A small plate of something to nibble, or a round of soft drinks wouldn't be a bad idea either for such a large group of loyal customers. It's a standard business practice and a great way to get a lot of people to talk well of your business instead of raising a stink.

    If there were any behavior problems on the part of the waiting customers, the staff should have resolved it immediately. Waiting until the waiting customers are getting steamed and then stating that another customer complained about them is an extremely bad idea. If other customers are complaining, then they have just as much responsibility to service that customer as they do the customers in the large party

    Worst of all was the reason why they were asked to leave, which had nothing (as far as has been reported so far) to do with their being unruly; it was because one of them started recording the staff.
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    My response would be that I'm reluctant to give an anonymous internet posting more credibility than the claims of people who put their name to their words.
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    My response is if you want to blame the black people, you'll be more than eager to ponder such hypotheticals.

    I prefer to stick to the facts
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    There are no statements from any waitresses or any other customers
    Wow. You go, dude! I'm impressed.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    You know nothing about me. And your consistent need to chase me down and throw accusations at me is odd. I am anything but simple and my understanding of these situations are anything but simple. Your inability to understand says more about you than me.
    I don't chase anyone down...

    Why are you getting so defensive and why are you making accusations against me? People post in forums about certain topics, that's what they're there for. I respond to posts in certain areas that interest me. You sent me a private message to discuss this issue with you so I thought you were interested in talking about it. Apparently not?

    The only thing I know about you is that you post about race as if everything is about racism, it's not, I challenge you to keep an open mind and not automatically jump to the conclusion that because a black person is involved and feels or actually is disenfranchised that it must be about race. It's not always about race and it's wrong to automatically come to that conclusion without first requiring evidence to back it up. If you have the evidence then please share because race being the most obvious answer in your mind certainly doesn't make it so.
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    why are they not probable? The guy who wrote the facebook post said his accusation was based on nothing more than the person complaining being white.
    It is possible, but given the history of racism in this country towards black americans and the scarcity of incidents where whites are subjected to the same treatment, it is more likely that the black people got loud and the white people freaked out. The problem here is when feelings of being threatened entered the picture. Given what we know now, I don't understand feeling threatened. I'm sorry but it is the same mistake GZ made that night.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    IMO this whole thread is a colossal cluster***k (present company excluded)
    Well, that's because you really, really don't like being held to the words you type. That's not just THIS thread.
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    A love for all things chicken, particularly fried chicken, is a common stereotype that many racists like to believe in about black people.
    I even found some black folks that agree (sort of):

    Fried Chicken and Me: A Black History Month Expose | Pimps, Preachers and Politicians

    Why Do Black People Love Fried Chicken so much? - News that matters to Black America - BlackPlanet.com
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    I don't chase anyone down...

    Why are you getting so defensive and why are you making accusations against me? People post in forums about certain topics, that's what they're there for. I respond to posts in certain areas that interest me. You sent me a private message to discuss this issue with you so I thought you were interested in talking about it. Apparently not?

    The only thing I know about you is that you post about race as if everything is about racism, it's not, I challenge you to keep an open mind and not automatically jump to the conclusion that because a black person is involved and feels or actually is disenfranchised that it must be about race. It's not always about race and it's wrong to automatically come to that conclusion without first requiring evidence to back it up. If you have the evidence then please share because race being the most obvious answer in your mind certainly doesn't make it so.
    She's probably young, lives in some little podunk town with a white majority and has had little to no contact with negroes or big city life...
    That's usually the case with the most rabid anti whites.

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