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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I'm guessing that they were loud. White people find loud black people scary. End of story.
    Is that now clear justification for SYG?

    I find your statement even more scary. The establishment in question is not a library called Mild Wings.
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Went looking around to see if there was more to the story than is being loudspeakered around by the hungry press, and found this in the comments:

    GeekGirl72NEW21 hours ago
    This is not the entire story. A physically handicapped female bumped into one of the females in the 25-party. The women then proceeded to insult and scream at the physically handicapped female. The female was very confused and frightened. NOT because of race but because she was unable to understand. The table for this party had already been setup and was in the section that I was seated in. They were going to seat this party but then they became louder and more socially inappropriate to staff and consumers walking in the door after the incident listed above occurred.
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Is that now clear justification for SYG?

    I find your statement even more scary. The establishment in question is not a library called Mild Wings.
    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You are entirely oblivious to the self-contradiction here, aren't you? "I'm not saying it's racism, but it's racism."
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I think you need to look up assumption and meditate how it might relate to you projecting your "voice of experience" onto this situation without supporting evidence .......

    Life is not as black and white as you guys seem to need it to be. Like in just about every other instance in our lives there is probably responsibility on both sides for what happened here. They were probably being loud and yes,....loud black people scare most white people. As much as many of you would like to pretend it's all made up, racism DOES exist and denying it will not make it go away and it certainly will not give anyone cause to stop screaming about it. Instead of whining and denying man up and acknowledge.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Life is not as black and white as you guys seem to need it to be. Like in just about every other instance in our lives there is probably responsibility on both sides for what happened here. They were probably being loud and yes,....loud black people scare most white people. As much as many of you would like to pretend it's all made up, racism DOES exist and denying it will not make it go away and it certainly will not give anyone cause to stop screaming about it. Instead of whining and denying man up and acknowledge.
    You are right racism does exist but people don't have to put up with it wnem they are eating in a resturant, even white people.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You are right racism does exist but people don't have to put up with it wnem they are eating in a resturant, even white people.
    What does that even mean

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Life is not as black and white as you guys seem to need it to be. Like in just about every other instance in our lives there is probably responsibility on both sides for what happened here. They were probably being loud and yes,....loud black people scare most white people. As much as many of you would like to pretend it's all made up, racism DOES exist and denying it will not make it go away and it certainly will not give anyone cause to stop screaming about it. Instead of whining and denying man up and acknowledge.
    Ummm, I'm pretty sure that YOU are the only one referenced in your post who's made up your mind about what's happened here, making your first sentence pretty high-larious. Everyone else is waiting for more evidence.

    To quote someone near and dear to you:

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I'm guessing that they were loud. White people find loud black people scary. End of story.
    At no point, despite your lip service to it, have you demonstrated anything remotely approaching an open mind. You've decided what happened, and that's it.
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    If you are having a celebratory dinner than I doubt they would make such a fuss that the police had to come to throw them out.
    What I'm saying is, a group of black people would be furious if they were asked to leave and they thought it was racial. The police would have to be called to keep the order. This would be a much larger story if it happened the way he said it happened.

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Ummm, I'm pretty sure that YOU are the only one referenced in your post who's made up your mind about what's happened here, making your first sentence pretty high-larious. Everyone else is waiting for more evidence.

    To quote someone near and dear to you

    At no point, despite your lip service to it, have you demonstrated anything remotely approaching an open mind. You've decided what happened, and that's it.
    Screaming at me in an effort to get me to accept YOUR version of what I think is pretty weak.

    I think there is a good "possibility" that her decision to ask them to leave was based on her assumptions about what kind of behavior they were capable of. It is also a "possibility" that what she thought they were capable, the level of threat if you will, was influenced by the fact that they were black. I don't KNOW that. I have opinions until I get more facts, like anyone else. My opinions however are fluid until I get facts. Then I can make make up my mind.
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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Two hours is a long time not to turn over 25 seats.
    recently we reserved 25-30 seats in a restaurant for three hours for a rehearsal dinner ... are we sure it wasn't one of those deals?

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    Re: Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threaten

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Screaming at me in an effort to get me to accept YOUR version of what I think is pretty weak.
    Claiming I "screamed" at you because your own words betray you is even weaker than that would have been had I actually done it. This is nothing more than a deflection.

    You're accusing others of having closed minds when it's you who are the one who has actually demonstrated it. You've made up your mind; you should just say so. I'm not trying to get you to "accept" anything; I'm just holding you to your own words and your own contradictions.

    If you would prefer I don't, then stop making them.
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