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    News The World Syria: Opposers Use Chemical Weapons
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    Syria: Opposers Use Chemical Weapons
    Armed opponents in Syria admit use of chemical weapons
    Members of mercenary and radical Muslim groups fighting in Syria to topple the government, aided by foreign powers, admitted to be in possession of chemical weapons to be used in their attacks.

    According to on-line Dampress journal, Saudi terrorist Abdola al-Jaledi revealed recently on his Twitter account @abo_almonthir that his colleages develop and store toxic agents.

    If it were not for confidentiality of this matter, I would reveal who was the fighter who made the said chemical bombs, wrote Al-Jaledi on his Twitter account.

    Abdola Al-Jaledi was a high ranking member of the Al-Nusra Front, but he left it and joined another group also linked to Al-Qaeda terrorist network, said the journal.

    Last Thursday, state-run television in Syria released two conversations among members of rebel groups who shared information about the lethal substances in their hands to attack civilians and the Syrian Arab Army.

    The revelations occur as an international campaign intensifies to blame the Syrian government for the alleged use chemical weapons against the civilian population, currently under investigation by a UN team invited by the government since August 18. / Source: PL.

    Syria: Opposers Use Chemical Weapons - Radio Angulo



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    Why would the goverment use chemicals attack when Asad is actualy wining?! Why is the USA supporting the islamic rebels?
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    The U.S. Navy will expand its presence in the Mediterranean with a fourth cruise-missile armed warship because of the escalating civil war in Syria, a defense official said on Friday.




    The official, who was not authorized to speak publicly, stressed that the Navy had received no orders to prepare for any military operations regarding Syria.

    ( as if it would be announced if the navy was ordered to prepare

    U.S. Navy expanding presence in Mediterranean due to Syria: official | Reuters
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    Re: who killed these babies ?

    I don't think the US knows who to believe was responsible for the chemical attack. I don't. If it was the rebels, it might have been in order to provoke foreign intervention. The US has been hesitant to help the rebels for fear they may be working with Al Qaeada.


    Obama weighs possible military response after Syria chemical attack | Reuters
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    Re: who killed these babies ?

    The animals waging war in Syria did that.
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    The Cuban Institute of Radio and Television or ICRT is an agency of the Cuban government
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    It's a totalitarian government agency in charge of all news on the island.

    Nice source.
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    Re: who killed these babies ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    News The World Syria: Opposers Use Chemical Weapons
    Syria - Chemical Weapons
    Syria: Opposers Use Chemical Weapons
    Armed opponents in Syria admit use of chemical weapons
    Members of mercenary and radical Muslim groups fighting in Syria to topple the government, aided by foreign powers, admitted to be in possession of chemical weapons to be used in their attacks.

    According to on-line Dampress journal, Saudi terrorist Abdola al-Jaledi revealed recently on his Twitter account @abo_almonthir that his colleages develop and store toxic agents.

    If it were not for confidentiality of this matter, I would reveal who was the fighter who made the said chemical bombs, wrote Al-Jaledi on his Twitter account.

    Abdola Al-Jaledi was a high ranking member of the Al-Nusra Front, but he left it and joined another group also linked to Al-Qaeda terrorist network, said the journal.

    Last Thursday, state-run television in Syria released two conversations among members of rebel groups who shared information about the lethal substances in their hands to attack civilians and the Syrian Arab Army.

    The revelations occur as an international campaign intensifies to blame the Syrian government for the alleged use chemical weapons against the civilian population, currently under investigation by a UN team invited by the government since August 18. / Source: PL.

    Syria: Opposers Use Chemical Weapons - Radio Angulo



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    Why would the goverment use chemicals attack when Asad is actualy wining?! Why is the USA supporting the islamic rebels?
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    Well, considering that Saddam sent his weapons to Assad....however, that part of the world is just crawling with insane Salafists so who knows.

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    Re: who killed these babies ?

    We all did.

    By participating in religious wars since the Crusades, agitating sectarian violence for millennia, feeding into secular schisms, and it hasn't changed much since the 11th Century and before. Some parts of the world like the US, have progressed, but other areas of the world haven't changed much since the 7th Century when Muhammad was alive.

    Secular violence has killed more humans than any other disease in the history of the world. Even the Black Plague was a mild head cold compared to killing that takes place in the name of God.

    Why did I say we all did? Because some feel that what happens in some other part of the world is not our problem. On the other hand, some think that it's our destiny to take our religion (democracy and capitalism in some cases, or a different religion of God in others) to everyone around the world. We have a responsibility to protect the vulnerable, not just here in our own country, but elsewhere as well. We did so in the Balkans, and those we protected were Muslims, so their religion wasn't a factor to us, although that's why they were being exterminated. We did so in Europe in WWII, where religion was also the reason for the genocide, but religion wasn't the reason we got involved. But we tend to look the other way lately when it's politically incorrect however, especially if there's oil involved, or it could effect our oil supply.

    This particular example of genocide is a little different than what we've seen on the past from a geopolitical standpoint, but the fact that it could inflame the Middle East and effect our oil supply makes it a hot potato. The fact that Russia and China have opposed any intervention has also scared, yes scared our politicians in power. But the horror is no less real, and our responsibility to protect the vulnerable is no less relieved.

    Sitting back and watching is not what we as a capable group in the human race should do. Making blustery statements about red-lines and then doing nothing isn't either. Using the excuse of having to get approval from the UN, which cannot agree on much of anything, and Russia or China could veto any resolution, isn't either. Getting a coalition together of like minded nations is a good idea, but it should not be a 'go/no go' line we have to cross before we take action to protect these babies.

    A strategy of actions that can progressively escalate when and if required, such as what President Obama is reportedly looking into now, is exactly what we should be doing. Do I like it? No. Does that mean I will not support the President if he makes the decision and gives the order? Of course not. Most things that are worth doing are hard, and uncomfortable. And the choice to use force to protect the vulnerable is no different.

    We should still stand for something in this world. Not expansion of our power and control, but standing for human rights and protection of the vulnerable. We should protect our economic interest around the world as well, but protecting the least among us from genocide shouldn't even be considered a debatable political choice. There is no choice, because the alternative to action is to be complicit in the murder of these children and those that follow, and that... is an unthinkable result, and is a thought I would not want to live with if I were the President.
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    Doctors Without Borders said there were roughly 3,600 patients with "neurotoxic symptoms" and it has tallied 355 deaths from chemical weapon attacks possibly committed by the Assad regime. There are gruesome video footages posted on YouTube, which match the aid group's description, and David Cameron and Barack Obama are moving closer to military intervention as they agreed that the alleged chemical weapon attacks by the Assad regime merited a "serious response". Surgical air strikes by ballistic missiles to hit selected regime targets such as suspected chemical weapons sites are expected in coming weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Well, considering that Saddam sent his weapons to Assad....however, that part of the world is just crawling with insane Salafists so who knows.
    You've brought up an uncomfortable truth regarding Iraq's WMD. And you're correct to bring it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    You've brought up an uncomfortable truth regarding Iraq's WMD. And you're correct to bring it up.
    Okay, we see a terrible thing. I am totally down for humanitarian aid including food, medical supplies and medical treatment as long as both parties to the conflict allow us to fly in and fly out without hindrance.

    Other than that, it is not our business. We are not the World's Policeman.
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