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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    If he killed people in the U.S we wouldn't even be discussing this, why are Afghan civilians of less value? If we regard the lives of those we are supposed to be protecting so callously then what are we doing there?
    I think it's more of a preventative mission than anything else at this point. What was the background of each of the victims? How many potential, or existing, terrorists were in that group? In a way, did he do this country a favor or was it a gross disservice? The point is, we need to get the hell out of Afghanistan, and the Middle East for that matter, and regroup. It's time to get back to a more reactionary stance but with a deadly caveat. "You leave us alone and we'll leave you alone, or we make a parking lot out of your country". Something to that effect.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I think it's more of a preventative mission than anything else at this point. What was the background of each of the victims? How many potential, or existing, terrorists were in that group? In a way, did he do this country a favor or was it a gross disservice? The point is, we need to get the hell out of Afghanistan, and the Middle East for that matter, and regroup. It's time to get back to a more reactionary stance but with a deadly caveat. "You leave us alone and we'll leave you alone, or we make a parking lot out of your country". Something to that effect.
    yeh that worked really well in the 1930's and 40's, really scared Japan off lol.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    yeh that worked really well in the 1930's and 40's, really scared Japan off lol.
    And looked what happened lol.

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    If they did not excute Lt. William Calley then this guy should not go to the gallows either but they both should have been shot in my mind. Lwt's see what the sentnece is for the Fort Hood incident with one oustnding difference, the killer in that wants to be killed.
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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    one oustnding difference, the killer in that wants to be killed.
    Not his effing decision! He surrendered the right to make decisions about his fate when he opened fire.
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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    And looked what happened lol.
    what you ended up being dragged into a cold war and were from that point on dragged into every world issue?
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    what you ended up being dragged into a cold war and were from that point on dragged into every world issue?
    I'd say we officially (and willingly) entered the global affairs business in 1918. The end of the Second World War just marked a giant leap into global affairs, but it was a leap we took voluntarily. We weren't dragged into anything.
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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I think it's more of a preventative mission than anything else at this point. What was the background of each of the victims? How many potential, or existing, terrorists were in that group? In a way, did he do this country a favor or was it a gross disservice? The point is, we need to get the hell out of Afghanistan, and the Middle East for that matter, and regroup. It's time to get back to a more reactionary stance but with a deadly caveat. "You leave us alone and we'll leave you alone, or we make a parking lot out of your country". Something to that effect.
    No, don't even go there. There is justication in killing "potential" terrorists, this aint ****ing Minority Report were we find people guilty of crimes they haven't even committed yet.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, but representing himself, doing a horrible job and calling no witnesses to add to that?
    There is absolutely no requirement for the military court is hand down a death penalty, unlike the civilian court system the voters can't influence sentences with mandatory sentences. The President can't increase a sentence- only reduce it.

    A military defense lawyer can do a craaaaapy job in defense and still 'win' if keeping the death penalty off the table is considered winning.

    Calley didn't die, Manning didn't die or for that matter get the full 90 years.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That is the issue. Dropping context and employing absolutism is no way to debate.
    No it isn't the issue, a military court is under no obligation to sentence anyone to death. Death is the MAXIMUM penalty- there is no mandatory sentencing like in a civilian court.

    Hasan can plead guilty, demand the death penalty (to be a martyr ) and the judge accept the plea but sentence Hasan to life without parole.

    It isn't absolutism, it is military law.

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