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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    No. One can justify something that is wrong if it is done in order to prevent a greater wrong. Justify means to show something to be right or reasonable. Not everything that is wrong is totally unreasonable, given circumstances.
    1. To demonstrate or prove to be just, right, or valid
    You're jumping through hoops of nonsense in attempt to justify your (probably dogmatic) absolutism.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes but the serial killer lacks certain characteristics that makes people human beings.

    Apparently people with severe OCD can be more dangerous to others due to a paranoia component that comes with it and are way more unpredictable. Just something I saw on tv once.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Apparently people with severe OCD can be more dangerous to others due to a paranoia component that comes with it and are way more unpredictable. Just something I saw on tv once.
    But the serial killer lacks empathy and compassion. Also, the serial killer actually gets enjoyment out of the kill, for real. They can't live without killing. It defines who they are.

    I know this is off topic, but just because the psyche of the serial killer is such a fascinating topic, here's a little excerpt.

    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/s...s/tick/1b.html

    We believe that we have control over our impulses — no matter how angry we get, there is something that stops us from taking our aggressions out on others. Do serial killers lack a moral safety latch? Or are they being controlled by something unfathomable? "I wished I could stop but I could not. I had no other thrill or happiness," said Dennis Nilsen, who wondered if he was truly evil.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I agree with the sentencing. Also, keep in mind that he was a soldier who could have suffered a psychotic snap or something. Not that this is an excuse for his actions, but I have no idea the stress that being in a war might put upon a person's psyche.
    Fair enough. However, what does that really matter if the man is going to be spending the rest of his life locked in a cage at tax payers' expense?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You want to kill Americans to satisfy other countries? Who gave you that idea, AlQ?
    I want to kill an American who rather clearly deserves it in order to save further American lives in the field.

    The Taliban is going to be using this ruling as propaganda against the United States and Western World in general for years to come. I also wouldn't be at all surprised if they staged more than a few reprisal bombings here in the next few days and weeks as "revenge" for our supposed inaction.

    We're talking about a people who went on a murderous rampage because a couple of holy books almost got thrown away once, but were saved at the last moment. Calm and level headed responses are not exactly something they are known for.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're jumping through hoops of nonsense in attempt to justify your (probably dogmatic) absolutism.
    You're jumping through hoops in search of a 'gotcha' kick. Hard luck.

    Justify:
    show or prove to be right or reasonable:
    the person appointed has fully justified our confidence
    be a good reason for:
    the situation was grave enough to justify further investigation
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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Fair enough. However, what does that really matter if the man is going to be spending the rest of his life locked in a cage at tax payers' expense?
    Because we don't have to kill anyone, and we are not to take such actions against our own citizens.

    I think you're a religious person, so how do you justify making that decision instead of God? It's a completely hypocritical position to take IMO.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I want to kill an American who rather clearly deserves it in order to save further American lives in the field.
    No one deserves the death penalty. If your motive is international relations, perhaps we should execute a few generals.

    Your bloodlust is showing.

    The Taliban is going to be using this ruling as propaganda against the United States and Western World in general for years to come.
    So what? Terrorists use anything and lie to create propaganda. There's no stopping that.

    I also wouldn't be at all surprised if they staged more than a few reprisal bombings here in the next few days and weeks as "revenge" for our supposed inaction.
    You think the Taliban is holding out on us? You think they choose not to bomb when they could? Nonsense. The Taliban bombs whenever it can.

    We're talking about a people who went on a murderous rampage because a couple of holy books almost got thrown away, but were saved at the last moment. Calm and level headed responses are not exactly something they are known for.
    It sounds like the terrorists have won. You want to appease them out of fear.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You're jumping through hoops in search of a 'gotcha' kick. Hard luck.

    Source: OED
    If it's justified but wrong, should a person be convicted and imprisoned for the justified use of deadly force?

    There's no "gotcha" kick. Just you talking in circles in order to justify dogmatic absolutism.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No one deserves the death penalty. If your motive is international relations, perhaps we should execute a few generals.

    Your bloodlust is showing.



    So what? Terrorists use anything and lie to create propaganda. There's no stopping that.



    You think the Taliban is holding out on us? You think they choose not to bomb when they could? Nonsense. The Taliban bombs whenever it can.



    It sounds like the terrorists have won. You want to appease them out of fear.
    I'm not willing to compromise MY principles to please another country anyway.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm not willing to compromise MY principles to please another country anyway.
    Not just another country, but specifically to please the Taliban.

    We better do what they want!!

    The question becomes: is this nonsense the result of bloodlust in general or a desire to appease terrorists, or both?

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