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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Again, I said the MOTIVE behind his attempt to enter a guilty plea isn't the issue, that one murderer was permitted to plead guilty before the trail and not the other is my point...

    There is absolutely no guarantee Hasan pleading guilty would get him a sentence of death. No a-tall....
    Yes, but representing himself, doing a horrible job and calling no witnesses to add to that?

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Again, I said the MOTIVE behind his attempt to enter a guilty plea isn't the issue,
    That is the issue. Dropping context and employing absolutism is no way to debate.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    BBC News - Afghan massacre soldier Robert Bales gets life sentence

    The US soldier who murdered 16 Afghan villagers last year has been sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

    Staff Sgt Robert Bales, 40, opened fire on men, children and women during the attack in Kandahar on 11 March 2012.

    The father of two pleaded guilty in June to avoid the death penalty.

    Justice for the victims or should he have got the death penalty?
    He should have gotten the death penalty; for international PR reasons, if nothing else.

    "Life in prison" isn't something that's really done in that part of the world, so a ruling like this just comes off as being a slap in the face to the victims' families.
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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So if someone is shooting up a school, you don't think it's right to shoot them to stop it?
    If you can shoot them without killing them, then that is preferable. I'm not saying it's never justifiable, but it's always wrong. Very occasionally however, it may be the lesser of two wrongs.
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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I might be behind the DP for a person such as a serial killer who is just way far gone mentally. That's a person who is the most dangerous and cunning, they make a career out of killing and do pose a danger even behind bars IMO. That's about it though. If it is to be used, only the absolute most heinous cases and killing MORE than one person should be eligible.
    I am not sure that a serial killer is more dangerous than someone who kills because someone looks at them the wrong way or "disrespects" them. Serial killers usually have a specific type of target that they are denied access to behind bars. They generally have some degree of discipline to them. The ones who have zero discipline are the ones who I think are the greater threat to others.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I'm not saying it's never justifiable, but it's always wrong.
    Oxymoron much?

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    He should have gotten the death penalty; for international PR reasons, if nothing else.

    "Life in prison" isn't something that's really done in that part of the world, so a ruling like this just comes off as being a slap in the face to the victims' families.
    I agree with the sentencing. Also, keep in mind that he was a soldier who could have suffered a psychotic snap or something. Not that this is an excuse for his actions, but I have no idea the stress that being in a war might put upon a person's psyche.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I am not sure that a serial killer is more dangerous than someone who kills because someone looks at them the wrong way or "disrespects" them. Serial killers usually have a specific type of target that they are denied access to behind bars. They generally have some degree of discipline to them. The ones who have zero discipline are the ones who I think are the greater threat to others.
    Yes but the serial killer lacks certain characteristics that makes people human beings.

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    He should have gotten the death penalty; for international PR reasons, if nothing else.

    "Life in prison" isn't something that's really done in that part of the world, so a ruling like this just comes off as being a slap in the face to the victims' families.
    You want to kill Americans to satisfy other countries? Who gave you that idea, AlQ?

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    Re: US solider receives life sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Oxymoron much?
    No. One can justify something that is wrong if it is done in order to prevent a greater wrong. Justify means to show something to be right or reasonable. Not everything that is wrong is totally unreasonable, given circumstances.
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