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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The point of the article is the lawlessness of BHO's means of effecting the change, not the details thereof.
    It wasn't lawless. This discretion was granted by Congress.
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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    And the point of my post was to point out the false claim that: "Obama has also ignored the mid-1990s welfare-reform law, allowing states to strip the “work” out of workfare"


    You know, the statement you with which you ended your post?
    Yes, and you were incorrect again.
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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It wasn't lawless. This discretion was granted by Congress.
    That would certainly be the Executive's unilateral opinion.
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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Yes, and you were incorrect again.
    Facts say otherwise, though I know you're not a fan of facts when they get in the way of your propaganda.

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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Facts say otherwise, though I know you're not a fan of facts when they get in the way of your propaganda.
    I'm just not prepared uncritically to accept the Executive's justification for its unilateral actions.
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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I'm just not prepared uncritically to accept the Executive's justification for its unilateral actions.
    Except that's not what we were talking about just now. We were talking about how the work requirement was not removed.

    Please stick to one topic or the other, that way I know on which one I need to obliterate you.

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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Except that's not what we were talking about just now. We were talking about how the work requirement was not removed.

    Please stick to one topic or the other, that way I know on which one I need to obliterate you.
    I have not switched topics. I do not accept that Congress granted the Executive the unilateral authority to alter the requirements of the welfare reform law. I believe the Executive wanted to act lawlessly, but has been forced (thus far) to back down.
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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I have not switched topics.
    You have. We were talking about how the work requirement was not removed. You were wrong on that.

    I do not accept that Congress granted the Executive the unilateral authority to alter the requirements of the welfare reform law.
    You do not accept what Congress themselves wrote. Interesting.

    I believe the Executive wanted to act lawlessly, but has been forced (thus far) to back down.
    For argument's sake, let's say this is true. If they have backed down, then they did not act lawlessly, even if they so desired. Thus your entire premise is blown up.


    Again, pick one topic and stick with it. I can destroy you on either one.

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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    You have. We were talking about how the work requirement was not removed. You were wrong on that.

    You do not accept what Congress themselves wrote. Interesting.

    For argument's sake, let's say this is true. If they have backed down, then they did not act lawlessly, even if they so desired. Thus your entire premise is blown up.


    Again, pick one topic and stick with it. I can destroy you on either one.
    The Executive attempted to act lawlessly to gut welfare reform, conforming to a pattern of lawless behavior. Congress granted no such authority to the Executive to unilaterally amend welfare reform, and GAO determined that the Executive was acting beyond its authority in attempting to do so. When a criminal is dissuaded from crime by security measures, he is no less a criminal.
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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    When a criminal is dissuaded from crime by security measures, he is no less a criminal.
    Uh, yes, he is. What a ridiculous thing to say. One is only a criminal if one violates the law.

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