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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ... as to the "jobs" bills...

    ".....Carl Riccadonna, a senior economist at Deutsche Bank, said some of the bills could create jobs, but that they would amount to more of an afterthought in terms of achieving broader policy goals.

    "They are very narrowly targeted, and it gives the impression that maybe some of this is special interest really pursuing these, not really taking a macro view but a very, very micro focus in what the impact would be," Riccadonna said. For most of the bills in the package, "jobs are a second- or third-order effect, not the main priority...."

    Most of them are just trying to reverse prior legislation. They are not serious jobs bills.

    How many jobs bills have been passed by (R)s in the House since they took control of the House in Jan 2011? - Yahoo! Answers

    As for the ACA, at the least the CBO says it is break-even to a small benefit. Note the letter from the CBO to Boehner letting him know the repeal of ACA would add to the deficit.

    CBO | Letter to the Honorable John Boehner providing an estimate for H.R. 6079, the Repeal of Obamacare Act
    Some serious obfuscation and lies contained within your post

    If you're going to quote the CBO you might want to quote their other reports which show the costs of Obamacare have DOUBLED since the initial legislation was passed. Oh and we don't get to keep our doctors and current insurance plans either like promised. Obamacare does not have the support of the American People. It needs to be defunded and repealed and hopefully someone outside of the 2 party system illusion will show some leadership and save the country from this nightmare.

    We don't have the money for any of this. None of it is sustainable. That's the plan however. Use Obamacare to gather personal and medical information on every citizen. Bankrupt and destroy the current system. Rebuild it with universal HC. Total government control over every aspect of our lives. All of it unconstitutional. But who are we kidding? When was the last time an Obama supporter gave a rat's ^%$ about The Constitution? Never.

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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Look at Obama's record

    Nothing more needs to be said
    On January 21st 2009, Obama's only record as being POTUS was that he had to take the oath of office twice because he failed getting it right the first time.

    No one called for the impeachment of Obama for his first failure on day one as being POTUS.

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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ... as to the "jobs" bills...

    ".....Carl Riccadonna, a senior economist at Deutsche Bank, said some of the bills could create jobs, but that they would amount to more of an afterthought in terms of achieving broader policy goals.

    "They are very narrowly targeted, and it gives the impression that maybe some of this is special interest really pursuing these, not really taking a macro view but a very, very micro focus in what the impact would be," Riccadonna said. For most of the bills in the package, "jobs are a second- or third-order effect, not the main priority...."

    Most of them are just trying to reverse prior legislation. They are not serious jobs bills.
    That's a valid opinion which really supports the idea that these legislative issues should be brought to the floor of the Senate for debate. That way, the people of this country can made a decision on the merits - not some German economist.

    How many jobs bills have been passed by (R)s in the House since they took control of the House in Jan 2011? - Yahoo! Answers

    [As for the ACA, at the least the CBO says it is break-even to a small benefit. Note the letter from the CBO to Boehner letting him know the repeal of ACA would add to the deficit.

    CBO | Letter to the Honorable John Boehner providing an estimate for H.R. 6079, the Repeal of Obamacare Act
    [QUOTE]
    The CBO has said a lot of things based on the information provided to them regarding the ACA. What it mostly resembles is a shell game whereby not all costs associated with the legislation are included - in fact, that's the basis on which it was passed to start with. The whole affair is a mess, with key pieces not implemented, costs rising seemingly every minute, waivers granted willy nilly, benefits postponed... this is not my assessment. It is the assessment of any rational person with eyes, and the conclusion of a democrat author of the legislation.

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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What link?
    Don't play dumb with me, Deuce. If you don't want to do this the right way, then I suggest you don't do it all.

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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I didn't insinuate a damn thing, the Cons spending 30 votes on repealing ACA is piss ignorant.

    With this do-nothing House i'd settle for at least an appearance of addressing key issues...

    The republicants are have a much better minority block under senate rules so little if any bills or for that matter cabinet nominees are successfully brought before the Senate.

    Let us remember one whine the Cons have over ACA, they hold that according to the constitution bills must be passed by the House BEFORE the Senate can consider them.

    Right now the Republicants in the House are busy with their own wee sh**ty rebellion. Boehner has all but conceded leadership in the House and now wants the Senate to lead the way... contrary to what his party decried over ACA....
    Ah, my poor misguided friend. The house is indeed passing bills. It is the court liar, I mean jester, I mean Harry Reid who is blocking the Senate from voting on them.

    You should change the channel, Rachel Maddow is lying to you.
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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    ". . . continues . . ." Indeed. As I said, no enforcement. The work requirement is gone.
    Ok. Then go ahead and gather evidence that this has actually been happening the way you think. Go show us states just letting people collect welfare forever without working.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Don't play dumb with me, Deuce. If you don't want to do this the right way, then I suggest you don't do it all.
    You've wildly misunderstood what I was saying. You guys put some effort into it, then I will. That was always the deal. You haven't done it yet.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You've wildly misunderstood what I was saying. You guys put some effort into it, then I will. That was always the deal. You haven't done it yet.
    I have no idea what you're trying to say, and neither do you. If you don't know how to do this the right way either, then I suggest you give up and do something else.

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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Ok. Then go ahead and gather evidence that this has actually been happening the way you think. Go show us states just letting people collect welfare forever without working.
    All of them. Work requirement is not being enforced and no one has lost welfare.
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    Re: Tom Coburn: Obama 'Getting Perilously Close' To Standard For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    All of them. Work requirement is not being enforced and no one has lost welfare.
    Prove it.

    Because really, if you think Texas and Alabama elected to waive welfare work requirements, I don't know what to tell you.
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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