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Thread: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    No, you can't unless that is all it is to you. A game.

    Facts are facts. The semiconductor/communications revolution and Y2K scare drove the 90's. Not Clinton.
    Of course, just like the PC boom of the 80's drove the economy, not Reagan.

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    It's also better than every single Republican president ever recorded for their first 54 months in office.
    Apples to oranges. None of them started with unemployment as high as 8%.

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Apples to oranges. None of them started with unemployment as high as 8%.
    So? Reagan was close. Just 3/10ths of one percent lower than the 7.8% Obama started with.

    Under Obama, the unemployment rate has dropped 0.4 points.

    At this same point in Reagan's presidency, unemployment had dropped just 0.1 point.

    And Reagan's a god to righties.

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    So? Reagan was close. Just 3/10ths of one percent lower than the 7.8% Obama started with.

    Under Obama, the unemployment rate has dropped 0.4 points.

    At this same point in Reagan's presidency, unemployment had dropped just 0.1 point.

    And Reagan's a god to righties.
    The difference is under Obama, the labor force participation rate has been completely flat, whereas under Reagan it started at 63.5% and went up to 64.4% in the same time frame. The differences is around 4.2 million jobs. Snooze you lose.

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    The difference is under Obama, the labor force participation rate has been completely flat, whereas under Reagan it started at 63.5% and went up to 64.4% in the same time frame. The differences is around 4.2 million jobs. Snooze you lose.
    It would also be important to mention Baby Boomers were not retiring when Reagan was President. Perhaps one might be interested to know enrollment in college increased 11 percent from 1990-2000 and increased another 37 percent between 2000-2010.

    I'm sure you recognize those facts, but I do think they need to be mentioned for those who may not be aware.


    Source: Fast Facts

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    It would also be important to mention Baby Boomers were not retiring when Reagan was President. Perhaps one might be interested to know enrollment in college increased 11 percent from 1990-2000 and increased another 37 percent between 2000-2010.

    I'm sure you recognize those facts, but I do think they need to be mentioned for those who may not be aware.


    Source: Fast Facts
    One would think the combination of those facts would have resulted in a dramatic decline in unemployment...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    One would think the combination of those facts would have resulted in a dramatic decline in unemployment...
    You mean like from 10% to 7.4% in roughly 4 years?

    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    You mean like from 10% to 7.4% in roughly 4 years?

    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
    No, given your figures and the way you attempt to portray them, employers should be having problems finding workers and bidding wages higher...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    No, given your figures and the way you attempt to portray them, employers should be having problems finding workers and bidding wages higher...
    I'm simply trying to portray them as the truth, that's all.

    I respect your intelligence enough to assume you know as well as I do that looking at a very small piece of the puzzle does not give clarity to the entire picture. There are MANY elements which come together to affect the various issues being dealt with. For example, outsourcing of jobs and the re-education and training of the middle aged worker who has to find a way to fit in a computerized society. The rapid increase of college education against the rapid rise in the cost of education. Easy credit, housing and financial crash of '08, the country's change from a production to service based economy, etc. all play a part in the different numbers we casually throw out. Reform College casually threw out a fact to counter a fact casually thrown out by Sheik. I casually threw out my fact to provide an additional to piece to the puzzle.

    But let's face it, this thread isn't about doing a deep and careful study of the causes of our current economic situation. This thread is yet another in a long line of political discussions for one side to argue with the other side, because at the end of the day, we all enjoy arguing about politics.

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I'm simply trying to portray them as the truth, that's all.

    I respect your intelligence enough to assume you know as well as I do that looking at a very small piece of the puzzle does not give clarity to the entire picture. There are MANY elements which come together to affect the various issues being dealt with. For example, outsourcing of jobs and the re-education and training of the middle aged worker who has to find a way to fit in a computerized society. The rapid increase of college education against the rapid rise in the cost of education. Easy credit, housing and financial crash of '08, the country's change from a production to service based economy, etc. all play a part in the different numbers we casually throw out. Reform College casually threw out a fact to counter a fact casually thrown out by Sheik. I casually threw out my fact to provide an additional to piece to the puzzle.

    But let's face it, this thread isn't about doing a deep and careful study of the causes of our current economic situation. This thread is yet another in a long line of political discussions for one side to argue with the other side, because at the end of the day, we all enjoy arguing about politics.
    I'd much rather carry on conversations to advance ideas rather than defend an ideology and the results thereof...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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