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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    Didn't businesses get another full year extension for this? I would not expect them to lower hours a year and a half in advance.

    Anyhow, I am not even sure you are wrong. I just wanted to say one thing to this...
    The only people I know of personally that have had their hours cut recently were affected by the Sequester. (3 people)
    Businesses were already gearing up for it before the extension was announced. My local supplier is an O'Reilly store. The manager there was hiring part timers last month and reducing full time people to part time. There are now 2 full time positions and 30 part timers in that store. This was not his idea, it was a corporate decision. the idea behind it is that they want to put a stake in the ground and establish themselves as the primary job by setting up work schedules now rather than wait for everybody else to do it and have to find people who have available work time around their other job. In the end traditional homes (you remember those, they consisted of a woman and man married, possibly with children) will likely consist of 3 part time jobs and no health insurance. Since part time jobs typically pay less than full time, many people will have 50 hours a week in 2 part time jobs with extra commute times between the two in order to take home what they did last year with a 40 hour a week full time job, and still no health insurance. Indeed in order for that local store to keep key employees while cutting their hours their hourly wage was not reduced... but there has been a pay increase freeze put in place for the next 2 years. Yeah Obama!

    Didn't see that coming? Bull****. They knew this was going to happen from the beginning because contrary to popular belief they are not stupid. They intentionally redistributed available work hours while causing reduction in employer provided benefits in order to grow government dependency. And the current batch of idiot children barely old enough to vote re elected them thinking it wasn't going to affect them. HAHAHAHA, welcome to your future, wage slaves. Good luck with those student loans...

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    This is starting to become redundant.
    You proved my point by quoting me.
    It is crystal clear that my first statement regarding expense was about hiring.

    You did not quote the second or third but the next was about expense as it relates to profit.

    And now your trying to pretend that I was making broad statements when I was in fact talking about my own small business and even made disclaimers to this fact. Hell, you even quoted my disclaimer, then pretended it did not exist.
    Why is it so difficult for you to have a conversation?

    I didn't pretend anything. I'm asking. You've made specific statements. When pressed to clarify, you're pushing back. Not answering any questions.

    What point are you trying to make? Every business (especially small) factors in taxes and government regulations when deciding whether to expand.

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Umm ... the BLS also tracks 8 years and up. That's just not the official unemployment rate. Factor out 16-7 year olds, and the unemployment rate drops, according to BLS data.

    At any rate, like it or not, the BLS and not Gallup is the official source for these stats.

    Like it or not, Gallup does not use the same standards as the BLS and there's no data to indicate that Gallup is more accurate.

    Like it or not, Gallup's non-seasonal data includes college students leaving their summer jobs to return to school.

    Like it or not, even Gallup admits their data cannot be compared to the BLS's data.

    Like it or not, no matter how much y'all fish for the highest unemployment rate figures you can find, the official unemployment rate is 7.4%. 5% lower than when Obama started.
    Like it or not, I was not arguing with you.

    Like it or not, I was trying to have a civil conversation with you.

    Like it or not, what I said is still true.

    Like it or not, I'm done with trying to talk to you.

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
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    Underemployed, eh? Wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that companies across America are reducing hours and only creating part-time jobs in order to avoid costly Obamacare mandates?

    Cpwill, why do you bother with Gallup?

    Has the past major polls they did all show raging problems with their methodology? Compared to the rest, Gallup is an outright joke. Didn't Nate Silver remove them from his calculations because they are so wildly unreliable?
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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Umm ... the BLS also tracks 8 years and up. That's just not the official unemployment rate. Factor out 16-7 year olds, and the unemployment rate drops, according to BLS data.

    At any rate, like it or not, the BLS and not Gallup is the official source for these stats.

    Like it or not, Gallup does not use the same standards as the BLS and there's no data to indicate that Gallup is more accurate.

    Like it or not, Gallup's non-seasonal data includes college students leaving their summer jobs to return to school.

    Like it or not, even Gallup admits their data cannot be compared to the BLS's data.

    Like it or not, no matter how much y'all fish for the highest unemployment rate figures you can find, the official unemployment rate is 7.4%. 5% lower than when Obama started.
    That's like.... almost 0.1% per year!

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    And it was under 6 for 80% of Bushes term until the left took both houses of congress too.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Umm ... the BLS also tracks 8 years and up. That's just not the official unemployment rate. Factor out 16-7 year olds, and the unemployment rate drops, according to BLS data.

    At any rate, like it or not, the BLS and not Gallup is the official source for these stats.

    Like it or not, Gallup does not use the same standards as the BLS and there's no data to indicate that Gallup is more accurate.

    Like it or not, Gallup's non-seasonal data includes college students leaving their summer jobs to return to school.

    Like it or not, even Gallup admits their data cannot be compared to the BLS's data.

    Like it or not, no matter how much y'all fish for the highest unemployment rate figures you can find, the official unemployment rate is 7.4%. 5% lower than when Obama started.

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    And it was under 6 for 80% of Bushes term until the left took both houses of congress too.
    It was 4.2% when Bush and Republicans took power in 2000.

    We can play that game all day long. It's probably a better idea to discuss the policies which have resulted in the various changes, rather than timing.

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    IDK the timing of democrats in control of congress tells us a lot.


    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    It was 4.2% when Bush and Republicans took power in 2000.

    We can play that game all day long. It's probably a better idea to discuss the policies which have resulted in the various changes, rather than timing.

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Seems to me the government proffered unemployment stats are about as accurate and realistic as its Consumer Price Index. They are both smoke and mirrors, NOT connected to reality. Propaganda for the gullible.

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    Re: Gallup: Unemployment Rate Jumps from 7.7% to 8.9% in 30 Days

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    IDK the timing of democrats in control of congress tells us a lot.
    Tells me they came in after Republicans did all the damage. *eyeroll*

    What it REALLY tells me is you don't really seem to want to be objective on this topic.

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