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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I'm not gonna take those studies at face value until I consider the counterevidence. But even if they pan out, then we should reform, not abolish, Head Start. This sequestration is, yet again, ineffective and stupid.
    I won't disagree with that. And Head Start does need changes.
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Whatever percentage was cut from this program due to sequestration is less than the 100% that should be cut from the program.
    Wrong on as many levels as there are levels.
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I'm not gonna take those studies at face value until I consider the counterevidence. But even if they pan out, then we should reform, not abolish, Head Start. This sequestration is, yet again, ineffective and stupid.
    That was literally the point of the sequester. Congress did it anyway.

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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    That's interesting but not very intuitive to me, so I'd like to know what it is about preschool that's so beneficial ($7 per $1 spent). Is it just socializing or gaining familiarity with school environment early, or an escape from crappy home life? What about kids who were never at risk for dropping out or arrest? Mostly i associate preschool with wealthy parents who obsess over their 3-4 year old landing a gig at goldman sachs.

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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    That's interesting but not very intuitive to me, so I'd like to know what it is about preschool that's so beneficial ($7 per $1 spent). Is it just socializing or gaining familiarity with school environment early, or an escape from crappy home life? What about kids who were never at risk for dropping out or arrest? Mostly i associate preschool with wealthy parents who obsess over their 3-4 year old landing a gig at goldman sachs.
    Good questions. Without having read that entire study, I wonder if they go into that.
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I'm not gonna take those studies at face value until I consider the counterevidence. But even if they pan out, then we should reform, not abolish, Head Start. This sequestration is, yet again, ineffective and stupid.
    Assuming it doesn't work, why should we reform it? It's a wasteful program that isn't worth the money that's pumped into it. Are you that desperate to spend money that shouldn't be spent in the first place?
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Assuming it doesn't work, why should we reform it? It's a wasteful program that isn't worth the money that's pumped into it. Are you that desperate to spend money that shouldn't be spent in the first place?
    Why do you not want to invest in the future of our society, particularly at such a crucial age?
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Why do you not want to invest in the future of our society, particularly at such a crucial age?
    Because we already know, for a fact, that it doesn't have anything to do with the future of society, it doesn't have any long-lasting educational effect, and WE CAN'T AFFORD IT!
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

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    Because we already know, for a fact, that it doesn't have anything to do with the future of society
    Wrong. This is such a basic concept that I shouldn't even need to explain it.

    it doesn't have any long-lasting educational effect
    Wrong. Do you even have any experience in education, or is this just another Fox "News" talking point?

    and WE CAN'T AFFORD IT!
    But we sure can afford tax cuts for the rich and for big corporations, military spending, and the War on Drugs!
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Wrong. This is such a basic concept that I shouldn't even need to explain it.
    There is no demonstrable positive effect of Head Start after a couple of years of schooling. Those children who were in a Head Start program do no better on average than those who were not.

    Wrong. Do you even have any experience in education, or is this just another Fox "News" talking point?
    We're not talking about preschool, we're talking about Head Start. Head Start is just free daycare with a thin veneer of education laid over it.

    But we sure can afford tax cuts for the rich and for big corporations, military spending, and the War on Drugs!
    Which is entirely irrelevant. Yes, I think we ought to cut all of those things too. Our government should never live beyond it's means.
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