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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    There was a time when the parents (or more likely mom), actually taught the kids a good bit of the basic stuff that Kindergarden and pre-school 'teach' them now. You know, it use to be what they call 'parental responsibility.' Of course that R word is a horrible thing nowadays, and why bother when you can have someone else do it for you.
    Mom also use to stay home and not work. That is no longer possible in today's society. Particularly for those parents who are poor. Now a days both parents must work in order to just make ends meet. Headstart and Kindergarten are programs that allow both parents to work in order to take care of those children and also still let them be responsible enough to make sure their children are educated. If you want to talk about irresponsible parents then you should be hollering at those parents that refuse to put thier kids in headstart and kindergarten and yet still have both parents working. That hurts a childs education far more than parents that put their kids through both of those programs.
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Today - Kindergartners learn how to:
    Write their name.
    Spell small words.
    Add.
    Read.
    Use a computer...etc
    My kids were doing all the above due to the work their mother and I did prior to them even hitting the level of pre-school. Unfortunately we have a world full of parents that do not realize their first priority is their kid(s).

    Problems: Pre-school actually does boost children ahead, but soon after, education levels out and it doesn't necessarily ensure their quality of education will continue to be above.
    Very much the case. My kids constantly complain about the slow pace in school, even in AP classes, where they have to wait for the slower kids to catch on.

    a mother responded to her - shocked - saying 'I send my kid to K so you can teach her all of that, I didn't know I was expected to teach my kid those basics beforehand'
    Ah, like I said above, many parents that do not have their priorities right.
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Mom also use to stay home and not work. That is no longer possible in today's society.
    My wife has never HAD to work. I have taken on extra work to ensure it. There were many times where she wanted to and did. But even when I was in the navy and had a second job and she was working, we still managed to teach our kids beyond the kindergarden level before they ever hit that age.
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Nothing he typed out should have led anyone to the conclusion you came up with. Nothing.
    I tend to look at the big picture. That is why I asked him a question and didn't just flat out say that is what he was wanting.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    "many people" have every right in the world to think that government should get out of the school business. It's their tax dollars funding the schools too.
    I never once said that people don't have the right to think that way and nothing in my post said otherwise. When you make a statement such as you did in the first part of your post here I would suggest not doing the same thing yourself. Looks a bit hypocritical.
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    My wife has never HAD to work. I have taken on extra work to ensure it. There were many times where she wanted to and did. But even when I was in the navy and had a second job and she was working, we still managed to teach our kids beyond the kindergarden level before they ever hit that age.
    Good for you! No, i'm not being sarcastic, I really do applaud parents that are able to do that. However not everyone has that ability or the luxury of not having Mom not work.
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    My kids were doing all the above due to the work their mother and I did prior to them even hitting the level of pre-school. Unfortunately we have a world full of parents that do not realize their first priority is their kid(s).



    Very much the case. My kids constantly complain about the slow pace in school, even in AP classes, where they have to wait for the slower kids to catch on.



    Ah, like I said above, many parents that do not have their priorities right.

    I think it comes down to the idea that "you have to be a teacher to 'know' how to teach your children - anything"

    That shocked mother never thought about teaching her kid how to use a pair of safety scissors, and didn't read books, or play with letter-blocks and so on? Meanwhile, I never even considered it 'teaching' - we just did games and stuff and they learned things along the way.

    I think the basics of parental values are taught/learned by example, and in our country our examples are often lazy parents so a lack of awareness and involvement just trickles down.

    In essence - it comes down to 'playing with your kids' which is something that many parents just don't even bother with.

    Oh - and when fathers excuse things like 'my wife/their mom should do that' - and they don't bother either, that doesn't make it any better. Parents have to take responsibility - employed or not. You can't just be lazy and expect the other to make up where you choose to slack.

    That's like my husband, when we had our first child, never brushing her teeth when she was a baby. He'd say, "I figured you did all that just fine without me."
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Good for you! No, i'm not being sarcastic, I really do applaud parents that are able to do that. However not everyone has that ability or the luxury of not having Mom not work.
    Perhaps I was not clear, my wife did work during those years. We still got done what responsible parents are supposed to do. To say 'but I had to work' is no excuse, for anyone.
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    ... it supplies many of its 960,000 children with two hot meals a day, transportation to and from school and basic medical care. When these services are eliminated, it also affects parents, who often must find difficult-to-afford day care services ...
    low income kids are already from families eligible for food stamps. so, why is it essential to provide them with two meals. i believe the family food stamp allotment does not diminish because the kid(s) also receive publicly funded food at school/head start
    those same kids from low income families are also eligible for medicaid to cover their medical needs. as with the meals, the head start medical services only duplicates what is already available to the child
    and no where in the thread was there discussion of the actual learning that is supposed to take place. well, that does happen. however, by fifth grade, any academic advantage which was provided by head start attendance, is no longer evident. so, there is no long term academic benefit to head start, the original premise used to launch the program
    what we really have is a free day care system for poor families. so, let the parents either stay how with their kids, pay for day care, or don't have kids they cannot afford to raise
    rather than curtail head start, the expensive program should be eliminated. it can demonstrate no substantial benefits to the kids it was supposedly intended to serve
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    Re: Head Start Cuts Services For More Than 57,000 Children Due To Sequestration

    This always seemed like a good program for the Federal Government to help organize. Of course, what gets organized should be paid for by the local and state governments.

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