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    UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

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    The 36-year-old man already has a son and does not want to become a father again, but is unable to make decisions about using contraception, London's High Court heard.Judge Eleanor King ruled that the man, referred to only as "DE" in court proceedings, could be given a vasectomy as having another child could cause him "serious psychological distress".
    "I have reached the conclusion that a vasectomy is undoubtedly in DE's best interests after having heard all the evidence," she said.
    Has Pandora's box been opened for a subclass of society that isnt allowed to breed in the UK's future? A six year old is smart enough to know the basic jist of birds and the bees. So I want to know if this man agreed to the viscetomy or not. Just because he said "I dotn want to have another kid" doesnt mean "Disable my seed from being able to spread forever." I want to know his exact intention. If they can do this for "personal best interest" why not cut off rapists balls for the "best interest of society"? Just sayin'.

    "I dont want to have a kid" could mean he was trying to appease the judge and saying "I wont have any more I promise". So what is the context? Or did the judge say, "We are going to do a special operation on your balls that will make it so you cant have kids anymore more. Is this what you want?" Im worried the guy might have been confused and the judge let his personal standards get in the way and would like to know more about this.
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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    I would say this is just the UK being ****ed as usual, but with more and more people in the US supporting forced sterilization of people, I can't. It seems as if people think they have the right to make decisions on other peoples bodies because of crimes or because someone doesn't understand their actions and to perfectly frank I consider it sick.

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    WTF.....I can't view foreign sites but want to know the details.
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    It's really a sort of complicated issue. In nature, the unfit wouldn't typically be breeding, and if they did, the chances of their offspring surviving would be lessened. With humans, who desire to defy nature, most of us can't stomach to watch nature at work among our own species, so we try to make accomodations and prevent the natural course of things when people who aren't equipped for child-rearing have children. It could very well be a slippery slope, and the implications need to be considered very carefully.
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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    That's basically it. He already has a child, but is mentally incapable of giving a valid consent for the snip. He's got the gist of how to do it, but not the ramifications. His parents went to court to get a legal permission for the op.
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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    WTF.....I can't view foreign sites but want to know the details.
    A BRITISH judge has taken the unprecedented step of sanctioning the sterilisation of a man with the mental age of a child, ruling that it was in his best interest.

    The 36-year-old man already has a son and does not want to become a father again, but is unable to make decisions about using contraception, London's High Court heard.

    Judge Eleanor King ruled that the man, referred to only as "DE" in court proceedings, could be given a vasectomy as having another child could cause him "serious psychological distress".

    "I have reached the conclusion that a vasectomy is undoubtedly in DE's best interests after having heard all the evidence," she said.

    The man does not have the capacity to give his consent to the vasectomy, the court heard.

    His family and doctors have backed the move but the decision - the first of its kind in Britain - had to be made by a judge.

    Experts say he has an IQ of 40, meaning he has the mental age of a child aged between six and nine. He is unable to live alone, has limited speech and cannot use money, Judge King said.

    He and his girlfriend, who also suffers from severe learning difficulties, had a son in 2010.

    The court heard that the couple have been together for 10 years but do not currently see each other without supervision, in order to "keep them safe".

    A vasectomy will allow the man to resume a sexual relationship with his girlfriend, the judge said.

    King said in her ruling that DE, described as a "friendly, gentle person", was greatly distressed by the birth of his son and did not comprehend that it had resulted from having sex with his girlfriend.

    The child is cared for by the girlfriend's family, she added.

    King paid tribute to the man's parents, saying they had "worked tirelessly to give him the best possible quality of life and in particular to ensure that he has as much independence and autonomy as can possibly be achieved".

    DE has "prospered and achieved far beyond what may have been expected given his level of disability" thanks to their care, she added, including managing to work at a local market stall.
    This story doesnt make sense already. How can he be apt enough to have a job but so clueless of breeding?
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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    I'm ok with it particularly with the parents consent. This also gives the man more sexual liberty without the result of likely parentless child(ren) that society has to pay for.

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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    I'd be fine with castrating violent rapists, but that is a different topic.

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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I'd be fine with castrating violent rapists, but that is a different topic.

    As I said, we have many people that feel they have a right to remove bodily functions of other individuals due to crime or inability to understand their decisions. It's just sick.

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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    This story doesnt make sense already. How can he be apt enough to have a job but so clueless of breeding?
    Yeah...I can sympathize I guess with the family that they will be taking care of children that he has but.....stinks too much of government making decisions they have no right making.
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