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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Eugenics is valid, Nazis or no. You made hate it but it is a solid idea, not everyone should reproduce.
    That's why Margaret Sanger created the Negro Project.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I was accurate, but then forget about the abortion board messages. It still leaves the question:
    Actually you lied, but you of course already know that.

    Which do you pick?
    Him never having sex again or have children against his wishes?
    Those choices make no sense, so neither.

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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

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    That's why Margaret Sanger created the Negro Project.
    No, she didn't.

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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, medical necessity is a reasonable exception to my statement. Simply removing bodily functions when nothing is wrong is uncalled for and they have no right to do such a thing.
    Exactly.. There is a difference between life saving procedures and a family not wanting to be hassled. I cant believe dude when even try to argue that.
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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Since on the abortion threads you are insistent that anyone having sex is consenting to having a child unless the person is made sterile - which one then would you pick for him:
    1. You want him banned from ever having sex again or
    2. You want him forced to have children he doesn't want to have.

    He does not understand how babies are made and he does not understand what a vasectomy is. What he told the court is:
    1. He wants to have sex
    2. He does not want to make babies.

    Any rational court would understand that is his approval of a vasectomy in that it meets what HE wants. To have sex without the possibility of making a baby. You oppose that. So then pick which of those alternatives you want forced upon him.

    In YOUR logic on the abortion board his only options are never to have sex or have children he doesn't want. Since you want him effectively banned from being sterilized, pick 1 of those 2 you want forced upon him. If he can't grasp how babies are made or what a vasectomy does, he certainly can't grasp what a condom does.
    Yet the guy has a job. Are you sure you know the whole story of what was said and not just what the court and news broadcasted? Have you heard this guys personal story? Or is this all assumption?
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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Beyond that condoms fail, if he is incapable of grasping that sex makes a baby and can not understand how a vasectomy works, how can he be taught to use a condom correctly? He is incapable of "dealing with it himself."

    More importantly, why make him go thru that? He said what he wants. He wants sex and doesn't want babies - ever. That means a vasectomy - for any man, not just him.

    No different for a woman. If she wants to have sex but absolutely does not want to become pregnant, it means a tubal.
    Where did he say "I dont want to have a baby ever" I could have swore it said "I dont want to have a baby". What if the court said "We want you to be able to be with your girlfriend more but you cant be trusted not to make more babies" and he said "I dont want to have more babies." Do you know what was actually said and the exact context or are we all just working with little snippets released to the news?
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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Seems he is telling the court he doesn't want children, but isn't competent to guarantee that with traditional BC measures.

    I'm not sure what the problem is here?
    Well he isnt competent so what if he changes his mind and does want kids later? The whole argument is based on that he doesnt want kids. Well what if that changes? Then what? Did this guy ever agree to the vasectomy or not?
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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    No, she didn't.
    Yes, she did. I hope you're proud to be a supporter of Planned Parenthood.

    Margaret-Sanger & The Negro-Project
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

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    Yes, she did. I hope you're proud to be a supporter of Planned Parenthood.

    Margaret-Sanger & The Negro-Project
    I am, but not right-wing lies.

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    Re: UK judge OKs sterilisation of man with mental age of six year old

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    I am, but not right-wing lies.
    No lies here, sir. Just the fact that Margaret Sanger wanted to wipe out the black race in America. She was a huge fan of Hitler and the KKK had her as a guest speaker on black genocide.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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