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    Re: CIA Ďadmitsí to having file on Chomsky, might have destroyed it

    Not surprising. If most of us don't have FBI files by now we are doing something wrong.

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    Re: CIA Ďadmitsí to having file on Chomsky, might have destroyed it

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So you're saying CNN and major US media outlets arent "propaganda"? How are they not?
    Because, unlike RT, PressTV and VenezuelaBS, such articles are not their focus (and they do not additionally produce flat-out propaganda). It amazes me that you would employ such baseless reasoning as "if others carry the article, then RT is not a propaganda arm". That's ridiculous logic and, frankly, appears hopeless.

    So they a "propaganda" arms because they are in a different country?
    That doesn't make any sense. We have propaganda arms (of organizations, groups, etc) here in the US. We just don't have a government run outlet as our major source of information, like those countries do.

    Chomsky is a utopian? Its really not. I mean we are talking about Chomsky are we not?
    It doesn't look as if you know anything about his "views", so I'm not sure.

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    Re: CIA Ďadmitsí to having file on Chomsky, might have destroyed it

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Because, unlike RT, PressTV and VenezuelaBS, such articles are not their focus (and they do not additionally produce flat-out propaganda). It amazes me that you would employ such baseless reasoning as "if others carry the article, then RT is not a propaganda arm". That's ridiculous logic and, frankly, appears hopeless.
    I never said they were not a "propaganda arm" I'm simply saying if RT is a "propaganda arm" then i fail to see how CNN or FOX or any other news outlet by that matter is not a "propaganda arm"...




    That doesn't make any sense. We have propaganda arms (of organizations, groups, etc) here in the US. We just don't have a government run outlet as our major source of information, like those countries do.
    So we do have propaganda arms. Just because you are privately owned doesnt make you a "non-propaganda" arm?


    It doesn't look as if you know anything about him, so I'm not sure.
    No ive read 6 of his books, i love watching and rewatching his interviews, not saying im a utopian im just saying i dont see how one could call Chomsky a utopian or a populist.


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    Re: CIA Ďadmitsí to having file on Chomsky, might have destroyed it

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I never said they were not a "propaganda arm" I'm simply saying if RT is a "propaganda arm" then i fail to see how CNN or FOX or any other news outlet by that matter is not a "propaganda arm"...
    hahaha

    So we do have propaganda arms. Just because you are privately owned doesnt make you a "non-propaganda" arm?
    Of course groups in the US have propaganda arms, but the government does not. In Russia, Iran and Venezuela, the government regimes dominate the media with government owned and run propaganda arms. See the difference?

    No ive read 6 of his books, i love watching and rewatching his interviews,
    I'm not surprised. Confirmation bias is a strong force. Ever read criticism of Chomsky? Of course not.

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    Re: CIA Ďadmitsí to having file on Chomsky, might have destroyed it

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    hahaha
    So no answer?

    Of course groups in the US have propaganda arms, but the government does not.
    Uhhh ever heard of a white house briefing? Pentagon military analyst program? The ad council?
    To say we dont have propaganda arms is ridiculous

    In Russia, Iran and Venezuela, the government regimes dominate the media with government owned and run propaganda arms. See the difference?
    Uhh Russia and Venezuela all have privately owned media outlets and many are owned by opposition to the government..

    I'm not surprised. Confirmation bias is a strong force. Ever read criticism of Chomsky? Of course not.
    Sure i have Slavoj Zizek


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    Re: CIA Ďadmitsí to having file on Chomsky, might have destroyed it

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
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    So it looks like we are going to move towards a simple debate over sources and not the content even tho both reports are virtually similar when linked to the original source..


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    Re: CIA Ďadmitsí to having file on Chomsky, might have destroyed it

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So it looks like we are going to move towards a simple debate over sources and not the content even tho both reports are virtually similar when linked to the original source..
    So you admit that I am the Puppet Master? Look, dude, you can talk about whatever you want. No one is forcing you to respond to me.

    Is CNN the same as PressTV? hahaha

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    Re: CIA Ďadmitsí to having file on Chomsky, might have destroyed it

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So you admit that I am the Puppet Master? Look, dude, you can talk about whatever you want. No one is forcing you to respond to me.

    Is CNN the same as PressTV? hahaha
    Did i say they were same? No i claimed they both use propaganda dude.


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    Re: CIA Ďadmitsí to having file on Chomsky, might have destroyed it

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Did i say they were same? No i claimed they both use propaganda dude.
    Similar propaganda?

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    Re: CIA Ďadmitsí to having file on Chomsky, might have destroyed it

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Similar propaganda?
    Of course. Both try to portray negative things about each other and both try to portray positive things about themselves. Saying that not everything in propaganda is true and not everything in propaganda is false.


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