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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    There is no scientific evidence that homosexuality is genetic

    There is no gay gene
    There is no evidence that any sexuality is genetic. There is no evidence that handedness is genetic. There is no evidence that many things are genetic, particularly when it comes to personality traits. But there is plenty of evidence to suggest that genetics do play a part in many personality traits, including sexuality and other sexual preferences.
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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Actually they've found sexual activity, courtship, affection, pair bonding, and parenting among same sex pairings.
    Nope

    In the wild when a male mounts a male, it's to assert dominance, power and control. There is no homosexual instinct in animals.

    Animals engage in sexual activity because of scents. Like a female dog in heat for example can be detected by other dogs by the smell. Even female dogs in heat have tried to mount female dogs in heat. Chemical reactions to outside stimuli. To try and project human motivations and behaviors onto animals is bad science.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There is no evidence that any sexuality is genetic. There is no evidence that handedness is genetic. There is no evidence that many things are genetic, particularly when it comes to personality traits. But there is plenty of evidence to suggest that genetics do play a part in many personality traits, including sexuality and other sexual preferences.
    Heterosexuality propagates the species. To claim that heterosexuality is not genetic is anti science. There is no genetic proof that people are born gay. We're born with reproductive organs in order to reproduce. Didn't you ever take science in grade school?

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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Words do have meaning. Natural is something that occurs or caused by nature without human influence.

    In fact the stigmatizing of homosexuality and homosexual acts is "unnatural" because it's solely a human construct.


    So words have meaning... except when you don't like the words.

    Can you name anything that isn't natural by your wide definition?

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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Nope

    In the wild when a male mounts a male, it's to assert dominance, power and control. There is no homosexual instinct in animals.

    Animals engage in sexual activity because of scents. Like a female dog in heat for example can be detected by other dogs by the smell. Even female dogs in heat have tried to mount female dogs in heat. Chemical reactions to outside stimuli. To try and project human motivations and behaviors onto animals is bad science.
    Well to be blunt I'll trust the science articles I've read by people that actually do that stuff for a living over someone on a forum.
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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    So words have meaning... except when you don't like the words.

    Can you name anything that isn't natural by your wide definition?
    It's not my definition...

    Yes...a sky scrapper is not natural, a city is not natural, human laws are not natural, extinction caused by human actions are not natural, deforestation by humans is not natural...etc etc.
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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    It's not my definition...

    Yes...a sky scrapper is not natural, a city is not natural, human laws are not natural, extinction caused by human actions are not natural, deforestation by humans is not natural...etc etc.

    But animals have been building structures in the wild forever, man has been building buildings forever... so by your definition a skyscraper is natural.

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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Nope

    In the wild when a male mounts a male, it's to assert dominance, power and control. There is no homosexual instinct in animals.

    Animals engage in sexual activity because of scents. Like a female dog in heat for example can be detected by other dogs by the smell. Even female dogs in heat have tried to mount female dogs in heat. Chemical reactions to outside stimuli. To try and project human motivations and behaviors onto animals is bad science.
    You haven't read much about this, have you? Sounds like you're just repeating something you heard somebody say. I have bad news for you. It is thought that every species of animal on Earth (with abundant population) has members which exhibit homosexual behavior. Not just "picking up scents." Not just "as a show of dominance." There certainly have been documented instances of those things appearing to happen, but homosexuality in animals is much more prevalent than that which we see in instances of "shows of dominance."

    Check out Roy and Silo! Gay penguins at New York's Central Park Zoo. Have they just been picking up each other's scent for years now? No, they are gay penguins, they are partners in life. They hatched an egg together. Super cute. If you aren't going to retract your point, I could go on all day. This is just the most prominent example of many observations and studies which show beyond a doubt that homosexual behavior in animals is widespread and diverse.

    EDIT: Roy and Silo broke up btw.
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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    stuides have shown that a male's chance of being homosexual increase by 33% for each older male sibling he has. A fact that I take great pleasure in pointing out to my younger brothers.

    interestly, the same correlation does not hold true for females.
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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Lysander View Post
    Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic | OrthodoxNet.com Blog
    Hm. Here I thought it was genetic.Either way its not natural.
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    Its not natural. The natural course of nature is to make children/young whatever you want to call it. Can't do it with homosexuality.
    Just starting with the first page. Homosexuality occurs in nature. By definition it is therefore natural.

    Gay people have kids all the time, and have done so throughout history. Your ignorance is showing.
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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    But animals have been building structures in the wild forever, man has been building buildings forever... so by your definition a skyscraper is natural.
    Not really..."existing in or cause by nature; not made or caused by humankind" is the definition I was using.

    The building of structures to escape the elements is a natural. A skyscraper is something specific that is only created by human...therefore not natural.
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