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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    False, obviously.

    The number of people whining in no way negates the whining from being simply that: whining.

    Continue to feign dumbnesss in the matter if you wish -- that's just another form of whining about obvious realities that fly in the face of your pre-conceived ideological agenda.
    Still no evidence, eh? Where is that email? Where are those quotes? I know that you will never admit just how badly you have been defeated, and how completely your position has been proven wrong. As I have told you, my job is just to keep pointing it out and challenging you to prove what you have said (while you fail to do so) so no one believes your misinformation.
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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Yep .. Dr. Rice and his team's silence on the challenge to deny that their etiological presentation makes homosexuality obviously a birth defect .. .. is golden.

    Since they never concluded or stated that homosexuality is a birth defect, nothing you said above is credible. Of course, you could provide the quotes that prove your position... if they actually existed.
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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I've been saying this forever here at DP.. The narrative (And they all pat themselves on the back for it) being that we (straight people) did not choose our sexuality is a non sequitur. I've argued from the pedophilia point of view as well suggesting that there are a lot more potential pedophiles than there are homosexuals, and that is usually enough to send them packing and I see it worked for you as well. Secondly, I'd point out that "most" homophiles frame the question wrongly anyway. When someone says that homosexuality is a choice, they are not necessarily stating that the choice is a conscious one. The choice comes in many forms and is what I believe to be directly related to what environment you place yourself in and under what conditions that occurs. granted, my take is more anecdotal, and not provably factual, but it stands to reason that, homosexuality appears to be more about confluence, as opposed to any single set of criterion, example, conscious choice, genetic etc..


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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Hence, so is heterosexuality.
    With a few notable exceptions, I don't think we would argue otherwise. The choices are not equally weighted in terms of the support they will receive from natural biology, after all - though an individual may receive different genotypical indicators - the sexual model of reproduction is one evolutionary one. That is not a forbidding rule (it does not hinder alternate sexual expression), but it is a drawing one (it does insist on a certain portion, and gives greater weight to, a particular expression).

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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Not at all... I'm just saying that the "people don't choose to be gay" argument tells us almost nothing with respect to nature/nurture. We most certainly cannot conclude that people were born gay simply because they didn't choose to be gay, as is often implied.

    I should also point out that immutable characteristics can also be behavioral in origin. There are many examples of "critical periods" in development where behavior at a particular stage will irreversibly affect you for the remainder of your life.
    Exactly, and anyone that understands how the prefrontal cortex works in prepubescent and immature kids is all you need to understand how our environment, in large part, (if not entirely) directs our neurological development as we grow into adults. So, when someone tries to frame the debate saying that "can you turn gay, or can someone not be gay", they are referring to people who are typically adults and have a mature prefrontal cortex already. Science has shown us that it is pretty near impossible to change behaviors as adults. Old dog new tricks come to mind? The "risk" of turning gay is well decided way before we are adults. The "choice" is in where we live, who we associate with, and our attitudes to our peers. Like I said, and I want to be clear as to prevent the homophiles from misrepresenting my argument, I have no verifiable proof of any causal nature of homosexuality, but I do stand by opinion with scientific fact that our prefrontal cortex is at the center of how it manifests in humans. How all behaviors and our being are manifest in this region of the brain.


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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

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    Still no evidence, eh? Where is that email? Where are those quotes? I know that you will never admit just how badly you have been defeated, and how completely your position has been proven wrong. As I have told you, my job is just to keep pointing it out and challenging you to prove what you have said (while you fail to do so) so no one believes your misinformation.
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    Since they never concluded or stated that homosexuality is a birth defect, nothing you said above is credible. Of course, you could provide the quotes that prove your position... if they actually existed.
    Dr. Rice and his team presented the epigenetic etiology of homosexuality, making it crystal clear that homosexuality is a birth defect.

    If you google "homosexuality is a birth defect" you will see discussion sites and blogs everywhere commenting on that fact since that study was revealed.

    Dr. Rice and his team are quite aware of the controversy of their findings, and, being obviously intelligent people, are aware that their findings do indeed make homosexuality a birth defect.

    But in the face of an uproar from misguided gay activists, such as yourself, they have been silent so far in answering the direct question, likely out of fear of losing their grants and positions from media-frenzy backlash.

    So, with that huge reality in mind, wouldn't you think that if they didn't think that their findings made homosexuality a birth defect that they'd simply come out and say so?

    Yes, that's right, they would.

    But, they haven't.

    Why do you suppose that is?

    What rational and cogent explanation do you give for their silence on the matter?

    Their silence is deafening in support of the obvious conclusion that their presentation makes homosexuality a birth defect.

    You can pretend to dumb yourself down to these realities.

    But it's clear to all who pass this way that's all you're doing, whether or not those who pass this way like the fact that the epigenetic etiology of homosexuality makes it an obvious birth defect.

    The question is, why are you so actively engaged in this obvious disinformation campaign of yours?

    What do you personally have to gain by denying the obvious birth defect reality of homosexuality revealed by this study?
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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    If you're not already gay and don't want to be gay, I don't think you have to worry about becoming gay.
    Wait a minute. Some straight people want to be gay? Who?

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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

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    Wait a minute. Some straight people want to be gay? Who?
    Michele Bachmann's husband. Oh wait, my bad.

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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

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    Michele Bachmann's husband. Oh wait, my bad.
    Ann Coulter's boyfriend?

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