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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    God says homophobes are condemned for judging gay people.

    Romans 2:1.
    Damn Qoaquin... I knew if I looked hard enough, I would find something you wrote that would show we could agree on something.

    Well done.

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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    We've been over this

    Stop elevating animals to the level of humanity. Human beings are not unthinking irrational creatures that act entirely on instinct and outside stimuli. There is NO homosexual instinct in animals. Irrational animal behavior is not a measuring stick to justify acceptable behavior in a rational and civil society.

    "homosexual behavior" in animals is for reasons that are not rational. Dominance. Clashing and conflicting outside stimuli. You're acting animals know what they are doing is right or wrong or something. Or out of some fairy tale love like in a Disney cartoon. It's all symbolism. Not science.
    Love is rooted in biology. Neurotransmitters and hormones such as oxytocin create an emotional connection to another person with whom we are familiar and intimate with. I haven't read any studies on the matter of animals feeling love, but the reason humans feel this emotion is because it's good for our species and helps us procreate and survive in groups. Therefore, I see no reason why animals wouldn't feel love. Animals deal with a different reality, because they likely don't worry about morality when they either are members of or descendents of species whose entire existence consisted of trying to survive. That doesn't mean they can't think or feel. If you grew up in a jungle with no parents and miraculously survived, how do you think you would act? In short, don't pretend the human race is something that it isn't.

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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    God says homophobes are condemned for judging gay people.

    Romans 2:1.
    Poor guy. You have no clue. One day you will see and understand. However, then it will be too late.

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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    So blowjobs are unnatural?

    I love the direction homophobes take. They want to control everybody, not just gay males. (though their fixation on gay sex is telling)
    Women can give blowjobs,women have babies so nope.

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    No, that is your own personal attribution of purpose and meaning to life.
    No its truth.


    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    If it occurs in nature it is natural. And really, why do you care?
    I care because homosexual activists and their allies are jamming gay history and lifestyle down kids throats in school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It doesn't matter why, and likely it's some complicated set.of factors. All that matters is that it's none of your business.
    Actually it is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just starting with the first page. Homosexuality occurs in nature. By definition it is therefore natural.

    Gay people have kids all the time, and have done so throughout history. Your ignorance is showing.
    Not biologically.
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    A declared racist talking about homosexuality. I bet he's a Jew loving Christian too.
    I am a racist? Did I say that somewhere or are you just using that good ole talking out of ass thing again?
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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Lysander View Post
    Women can give blowjobs,women have babies so nope.


    No its truth.


    I care because homosexual activists and their allies are jamming gay history and lifestyle down kids throats in school.


    Actually it is.

    Not biologically.

    I am a racist? Did I say that somewhere or are you just using that good ole talking out of ass thing again?

    Very smart! I know its horrible...
    What is the matter with teaching people to be tolerant? Are you afraid they are going to catch it?

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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Lysander View Post
    Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic | OrthodoxNet.com Blog
    Hm. Here I thought it was genetic.Either way its not natural.
    Aside from quoting from a conservative religious site, the article is simply wrong! The article you are citing is not quoting from a “new study,” but a “Meta-study” of collated prior studies. Those studies consisted of statistical examinations of identical twin’s sexual orientations, but rarely, if ever examined the genetic codes of participants.

    The first very large, reliable study of identical twins was conducted in Australia in 1991, followed by a large U.S. study about 1997. Then Australia and the U.S. conducted more twin studies in 2000, followed by several studies in Scandinavia, according to Dr. Whitehead.
    I am familiar with many of the studies, they have been cited often in past discussions of the topic. Most of the studies were conducted by Ph.D.’s in disciplines other than genetics. They all simply examined groups of sexually mature twins, focusing on those pairs containing members who were homosexual. The very few that might have involved genetic examinations were done prior to the development of modern techniques, and NONE examined sets of identical twin babies..

    They ALL PRESUMED that since they were identical twins developed from a single shared zygote, then their DNA must also be identical. All participants were sexually mature and any genetic “drift” (difference) noted by geneticists was assumed to be epigenetic. This has been proven untrue, identical twins can and do have different DNA from birth: Identical Twins Differ Genetically | LiveScience

    This 2012 study shows that somatic and other gene mutations occur at a very high rate, demonstrating that identical twins often have different genetic structures at birth.

    All the studies used by the author of the meta-study, Dr. Whitehead, were conducted before the November 2012 revelation that examination of genetic codes in 92 sets of identical twins showed a number had clear differences in their genetic codes which occurred while still in the womb.

    Dr. Whitehead, the Ph.D., who collated his meta-study is not a geneticist.

    “At best genetics is a minor factor,” says Dr. Neil Whitehead, PhD. Whitehead…His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics.
    So, we now know that Identical Twins do not always have identical DNA, that in fact they frequently have different DNA structures in the mix. While this doesn’t prove there is a “gay gene,” it does disprove any assertion that just because only one of a pair of twins is gay there must be no such thing as a gay gene.
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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Lysander View Post

    Not biologically.
    Yes, biologically. Leaving aside the fact that all kids born today are born biologically and taking it as you meant, you are still wrong. Gay people have had kids since the beginning of time. Hint: all the organs gay people have work just the same as the ones straight people have.
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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    What is the matter with teaching people to be tolerant? Are you afraid they are going to catch it?
    "Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions."

    Are you going to say the same thing for incest? Beastiality? Polygamy?
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, biologically. Leaving aside the fact that all kids born today are born biologically and taking it as you meant, you are still wrong. Gay people have had kids since the beginning of time. Hint: all the organs gay people have work just the same as the ones straight people have.
    I know everyone's works the same point being can't have a child the normal way man/woman without having sex...being gay means you aren't doing it the normal way so they must adopt or get a woman to carry 1 of the men's seed and not the other...

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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Lysander View Post
    I know everyone's works the same point being can't have a child the normal way man/woman without having sex...being gay means you aren't doing it the normal way so they must adopt or get a woman to carry 1 of the men's seed and not the other...
    Ok, the problem is that you have no clue what gays do and do not do. Let me give you a clue: gays can have sex with people of the opposite sex, just as straight people can have sex with those of the same sex. Learn the difference between orientation and activity. Gays have been having kids as long as there have been gays. That simple fact destroys entirely your supposition they are not doing it the normal way. Further, those methods you mention: they are perfectly good, valid ways to have kids. Oh, and one last clue that you seem to lack: women can be gay too.
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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic

    Then that would make them bisexual not gay. Sheesh.Oh and yes I know women can be gay. I knew a "lesbian" its funny she decided she was a lesbian AFTER she had 2 kids with a guy...quite amusing..

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