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First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

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Smeagol said:
No. I just was thinking a few hundred miles vs a few thousand miles to Texas.
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Martha's Vineyard is very expensive. It's a vacation destination for the wealthy.
 
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This entire thread is idiocy, idiocy that has been repeated over the years, nearly every time Obama goes on vacation... and two posts in this very thread has shown this story to be false. Every president I can remember has had dogs in the White House, and has taken those dogs on vacation. If there is room for the dog on Air Force One, that's where it flies. If a smaller plane is required because the runway isn't large enough for Air Force One, then additional required staff, aids... and dog(s)... come in on additional flights.

Partisan pouting is one thing, but this partisan pettiness is absolutely beyond the pale. The Obamas are allowed to have a dog, like dozens of first families before them, and they are allowed to take their dogs on vacation with them, just like dozens of first families before them.

In closing, I'd like to add: WTF is wrong with you people????

Thank you.
 
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ChrisL said:
Martha's Vineyard is very expensive. It's a vacation destination for the wealthy.
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But all the costs are being privately funded/donated I thought. The only taxpayer expenses are transportation and security, which would be the same or probably less than if he went to a ranch in Texas since it takes more fuel to fly to Texas.
 
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DiAnna said:
This entire thread is idiocy, idiocy that has been repeated over the years, nearly every time Obama goes on vacation... and two posts in this very thread has shown this story to be false. Every president I can remember has had dogs in the White House, and has taken those dogs on vacation. If there is room for the dog on Air Force One, that's where it flies. If a smaller plane is required because the runway isn't large enough for Air Force One, then additional required staff, aids... and dog(s)... come in on additional flights.

Partisan pouting is one thing, but this partisan pettiness is absolutely beyond the pale. The Obamas are allowed to have a dog, like dozens of first families before them, and they are allowed to take their dogs on vacation with them, just like dozens of first families before them.

In closing, I'd like to add: WTF is wrong with you people????

Thank you.
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:lamo
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Smeagol said:
But all the costs are being privately funded/donated I thought. The only taxpayer expenses are transportation and security, which would be the same or probably less than if he went to a ranch in Texas since it takes more fuel to fly to Texas.
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I don't know if it is or not. But about the dog, don't you think it costs extra money to have a handler?

I wonder if they paid for the dog themselves to begin with and I wonder how much a Labradoodle or whatever the heck kind of dog it is costs?
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

DiAnna said:
This entire thread is idiocy, idiocy that has been repeated over the years, nearly every time Obama goes on vacation... and two posts in this very thread has shown this story to be false. Every president I can remember has had dogs in the White House, and has taken those dogs on vacation. If there is room for the dog on Air Force One, that's where it flies. If a smaller plane is required because the runway isn't large enough for Air Force One, then additional required staff, aids... and dog(s)... come in on additional flights.

Partisan pouting is one thing, but this partisan pettiness is absolutely beyond the pale. The Obamas are allowed to have a dog, like dozens of first families before them, and they are allowed to take their dogs on vacation with them, just like dozens of first families before them.

In closing, I'd like to add: WTF is wrong with you people????

Thank you.
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Absolutely agree. All Presidents take vacations. All Presidents take their staff because they work on vacation. All Presidents travel with large Secret Service contingents because they are required to by law. Most Presidents seem to favor their home towns for vacations. Obama as I recall spent much of his life in Hawaii.

I don't begrudge any President their vacation time. I want my President to be well rested.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

DiAnna said:
This entire thread is idiocy, idiocy that has been repeated over the years, nearly every time Obama goes on vacation... and two posts in this very thread has shown this story to be false. Every president I can remember has had dogs in the White House, and has taken those dogs on vacation. If there is room for the dog on Air Force One, that's where it flies. If a smaller plane is required because the runway isn't large enough for Air Force One, then additional required staff, aids... and dog(s)... come in on additional flights.

Partisan pouting is one thing, but this partisan pettiness is absolutely beyond the pale. The Obamas are allowed to have a dog, like dozens of first families before them, and they are allowed to take their dogs on vacation with them, just like dozens of first families before them.

In closing, I'd like to add: WTF is wrong with you people????

Thank you.
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Also dragging Obama's children into this, who were 7 and 10 when Obama was sworn in as president, is also a very devious partisan smear attack.

And I have brought up in previous posts former first Lady Laura Bush and the 2 Bush children as an example that they also traveled to foreign countries. I do not have an issue with that at all, I did not bring them up because I think there is something wrong with their travels but as an example that the Obama family isn't any different from the George W. Bush junior family when they occupied the white house.
 
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Gaius46 said:
Absolutely agree. All Presidents take vacations. All Presidents take their staff because they work on vacation. All Presidents travel with large Secret Service contingents because they are required to by law. Most Presidents seem to favor their home towns for vacations. Obama as I recall spent much of his life in Hawaii.

I don't begrudge any President their vacation time. I want my President to be well rested.
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If it had been me I would have paid a couple of interns to drive to dog up over the weekend or left him at home. But s that really driving the country into bankruptcy?
 
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Smeagol said:
How is Obama's trip to Martha's Vineyard tremendously more expensive than Midand, Texas?
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Because Martha's Vineyard is tremendously more expensive.

It's not just this trip specific though. Pres. Obama spares no expense when he travels.

Sure, he paid for his room while in Mumbai's Taj Mahal Hotel but the U.S. taxpayer picked up the tab for renting out every other room in the building. I don't expect him to stay in a Motel 6 but did he have to choose one of the most expensive hotels in the world? Did he have to see the Gandhi Museum so badly that taxpayers needed to foot the bill for the mile long, bomb proof tunnel? Did it have to be air conditioned when his $300,000.00 limo certainly comes with air conditioning. Triple the number of boat patrols were needed in his last trip to Hawaii because he rented a house at the tip of a peninsula and procedure required separate guards and patrols for all three waterways. Couldn't he have saved a few hundred thousand dollars by renting a house that only overlooks one waterway? Did we really have to pay tens of thousands of additional dollars because his family couldn't wait for him to begin their family vacation so they flew on ahead when he was delayed?

I get that he's not just some guy but I don't think it's asking too much to expect him to just skip a museum if the trip there is too dangerous to undertake without a bomb proof tunnel being built for the one time use.
 
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USViking said:
You or somebody made this crap up. That is, unless Nixon had a slush fund to cover 24/365 security,
because he sure as hell couldn't afford it out of his investments and pensions, at least as of 1973.

I did read shortly after his death was that he dispensed with SS protection a few years before his death.
There was no mention of hiring private security, though.

Hillary had a high-powered lawyer job, so they could certainly have afforded a house,
so this is sure to be more teabagger bull****.


I don't think this is much of a problem. Really I don't.
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Actually Nixon got rid of his Secret Service detail ten years before his death.

Nixon was a practicing attorney unlike Clinton and Obama, so he made his bucks early on during his career. He made more money during WW ll playing poker in the South Pacific. Lt. Cmdr. Nixon was considered one of the best poker players in the Pacific theater during WW ll. By the time Nixon entered politics right after WW ll he was pretty well off.

Also Nixon was an author of many best selling books after his Presidency.

So no slush funds were needed.

Nixon was a very generous person. Ask any one who actually knew him.

Ask any Marine who was White Beach when Nixon would come walking up to them wearing his wingtip shoes while walking along Camp Pendleton beaches. White Beach was his favorite.

Remember the story of Nixon at night at the Lincoln Memorial talking to the hippies ?

I have a lady friend who's father was Nixon's chauffeur after he resigned. When Nixon decided to move from San Clemente to a place where he said "Where nobody likes anyone" that being New York City Nixon gave his Cadillac limo to his chauffeur in appreciation for his services.

Obama compared to Nixon makes Watergate look like an infraction compared to J-walking.
 
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Smeagol said:
That's what I don't get. If Air Force One is going there anyway and there's a vacant seat, I can't see how that's soaking the taxpayers. Sending a separate plane, maybe but traveling with the President is close to no extra costs. Secret Service is going to be with them in whether in DC or Africa. So the cost of a few extra hotel rooms? Meanwhile each family member serves a type of ambassador helping to build a positive American image to people who uniquely identify with them. I ave absolutely no probes with the president bringing his family on official trips overseas, in fact I support it.
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G.W. Bush's ranch like LBJ's Ranch, Reagan's ranch and Nixon's Summer White House in San Clemente were all set up with communication systems and command and control facilities able to conduct the functions of running the country or conducting war.
 
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APACHERAT said:
So you're saying that Obama's Department of State and the Secretary of State are too incompetent and Obama had to go to Africa ? I agree 100 %

It was a family vacation. Disneyland's Adventureland wasn't good enough for Malia and Natasha. Spoiled brats.
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So you're saying you're an anti-capitalist and hate freedom. Got it.
 
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APACHERAT said:
We are talking about Obama's family vacations.
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I'm providing rational context as to the costs of the President doing anything. You, and your partisan hackery peanut gallery have no problem ignoring things like this.
 
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Smeagol said:
Meanwhile each family member serves a type of ambassador helping to build a positive American image to people who uniquely identify with them. QUOTE]

:2rofll:

The Obama's act like a family from South Central who just won the lotto.
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ChrisL said:
Martha's Vineyard is very expensive. It's a vacation destination for the wealthy.
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Obama was wealthy before he became president. Why do you hate rich people?
 
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obvious Child said:
I'm providing rational context as to the costs of the President doing anything. You, and your partisan hackery peanut gallery have no problem ignoring things like this.
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Partisan Hack ?

I'm on no ones payroll. Haven't received one cent from the RNC since the mid 1980's. I have no power within the Republican Party. I don't even consider my self in good standing with the RNC, but the RNC seems to differ. :lol:
 
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APACHERAT said:
:2rofll:

The Obama's act like a family from South Central who just won the lotto.
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Why did you say that?
 
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obvious Child said:
I'm providing rational context as to the costs of the President doing anything. You, and your partisan hackery peanut gallery have no problem ignoring things like this.
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Rational context?

17 trillion in debt and counting

Obama is spending our money like he's Mayweather in a strip club. Stop pretending like Obama gives 2 *&^%$ if American taxpayer money is wasted.

He had his dog airlifted to his 7.6M posh vacation getaway. Oh but Bush blah blah yea we know and we don't care
 
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obvious Child said:
Anywhere a President goes for any extended period of time will more than Obama's entire yearly salary and and expense allowances combined and doubled. Where were you when every President before Obama blew their more than their entire yearly salary and and expense allowances combined and doubled on any trip?
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I'm not sure if any POTUS has vacationed as extravagantly as he though.

I get that he's your guy and you feel obligated to defend him but some of his expenditures are pretty indefensible. No one is saying he shouldn't take a vacation but does he have to build a mile long, bomb proof tunnel when he ventures out into bad neighborhoods? Can't he just, ya know, find something else to do in a safer neighborhood?
 
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Moot said:
Obama was wealthy before he became president. Why do you hate rich people?
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Where did I say that? I hate politicians, not rich people. :lamo
 
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Moot said:
So you're saying you're an anti-capitalist and hate freedom. Got it.
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PM me when you find out what we or any all American owned company got something out of Obama's family vacation in Africa.

The only thing Africa has that America needs is oil and isn't Obama suppose to make America independent from oil imports ?

If Obama really wanted to accomplish something good in Africa, he would have droaned that Nigerian General who keeps e-mailing me for the past sixteen years.
 
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Dapper Andy said:
I'm not sure if any POTUS has vacationed as extravagantly as he though.
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The costs of security are rising from pay, to equipment to area security. Just a fact of life.

I get that he's your guy and you feel obligated to defend him
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EPIC FAIL

You are relatively new, but you should not assume that merely because someone disagrees with your position that they are automatically a fan of the opposing side. Some of us don't like the partisan vomit that goes both ways. Thus, I'm giving you some advice now, research who you are posting to before making such assumptions. That way you end up with less egg on your face.

but some of his expenditures are pretty indefensible.
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So does every President. Harping about vacation costs ignores that it costs an arm and a leg when the President steps outside the White House.

No one is saying he shouldn't take a vacation but does he have to build a mile long, bomb proof tunnel when he ventures out into bad neighborhoods? Can't he just, ya know, find something else to do in a safer neighborhood?
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Ever been to India? You might want to reconsider that little quip.
 
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APACHERAT said:
:2rofll:

The Obama's act like a family from South Central who just won the lotto.
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They can't all be millionaires like the Bush's. Ooh wait, the Obama's are millionaires too. They have been making loads of money since years and years. You are acting like a poverty stricken family got dropped into the White House straight from the Hood.

I am sorry, but all your comments about the Obama's say more about you than about the Obama's.
 
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Bronson said:
Rational context?

17 trillion in debt and counting

Obama is spending our money like he's Mayweather in a strip club. Stop pretending like Obama gives 2 *&^%$ is American taxpayer money is wasted.
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Actually, Obama has spent less than GWBush. Not to mention the deficit is shrinking faster than it did after WW2 and the debt is actually going down and CBO cut it's projection on the debt in half.

POP goes your bubble.
 
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