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First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Everything costs money. The person who has to handle and care for the dog is definitely being paid to do so. Why the heck can't the first family care for their own dog like normal people do?

I do not know how many people fit in Marine one, maybe with the security detachment, flight crew and the 4 piece Obama family there is not enough room to have the dog fly there with them. And who cares, do you think all former presidents personally cared for their pets all of the times. They will have had au-pairs or dog walkers etc. to take care of their animals.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

I do not know how many people fit in Marine one, maybe with the security detachment, flight crew and the 4 piece Obama family there is not enough room to have the dog fly there with them. And who cares, do you think all former presidents personally cared for their pets all of the times. They will have had au-pairs or dog walkers etc. to take care of their animals.

Then what's the point of having a dog? For show, right?
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Bush owns his ranch, Obama stays at rentals that WE pay for.
You wanna pay for me to go the Keys at end of summer?

The president gets a salary just like congress does....or did you think he works for free?

"Effective January 1, 2001, the annual salary of the President of the United States was increased to $400,000 per year (up from $200K), including a $50,000 expense allowance....
Presidential Pay and Compensation – Pay and Compensation of the President of the United States


I'm pretty sure the president is paying for his vacation rental house.


Did you complain when congress doubled Bush's salary?
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Then what's the point of having a dog? For show, right?

Yeah, that is why people have dogs. Then what is the point of having children? For photo-ops and if they are old enough to campaign, right? :roll:
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Yeah, that is why people have dogs. Then what is the point of having children? For photo-ops and if they are old enough to campaign, right? :roll:

No, that is why politicians have dogs. Politicians aren't people, get with the program. :mrgreen:
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

When Nixon resigned he hired his own security and sent his Secret Service detail to the unemployment line.

Funny,when Republican Presidents took a vacation, Nixon had his house in San Clemente, Ford had Palm Springs, Reagan had his ranch near Santa Barbara, G.H Bush owned a large home where all the rich people live and G.W. Bush had his ranch in Texas.

Clinton during his entire adult life never owned a home until after his last term as President.
I hear that the Sheriff had to evict Clinton from the Arkansas Governor's mansion because he didn't have a home to go too after being Governor.

Another thing I noticed about Republican Presidents compared to Democrat Presidents. Democrats when they come to the Left Coast and come to La La Land to pick up cash from the liberal elite, they always have Air Force One land at LAX screwing up thousands of travelers schedules and disrupting millions of people lives with closed roads, business losing millions of dollars because the roads are closed, etc. And if Obama is on the West Side and you live on the West Side you have to show ID to get to your house. But you don't have to show ID to vote.

Whereas Republicans being Cn'C always used military airfields when they came to L.A.

Nixon always used El Toro MCAS.
Ford, Reagan, both Bush's always used March AFB.
No commercial flights delayed, no streets closed, nobody lives interrupted.
And you never had to show ID to get home if a Republican was in town.

Same is true for Chicago.

When I lived there, every time Obama would come to visit, it seems like I would have to get through a security detail just to get to my own apartment.

The man has no regard for the regular folks. The entire city has to stop and go on lockdown so that he and his wife can have dinner at a friend's. Ridiculous.

I think it started with the Kennedy's and got worse with every Democratic president since. They think they're American royalty.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Bush owned the ranch that YOU paid to set up better than Camp David.. security, tech and communications. On top of that YOU paid for his constant flying to the ranch and the extra wages that White House staff most likely get when away from the White House.

Sure Obama rents his place, so what.. it is still far cheaper than outfitting a ranch with the state of the art tech..


WE being AMERICANS, not YOU.

What is your interest in this story, as a European?
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Yeah, that is why people have dogs. Then what is the point of having children? For photo-ops and if they are old enough to campaign, right? :roll:

Let me ask you, as a Dutchman, what is your interest in this story?
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Is this the official storm in a teacup of the day? ConMeme central must be running low on supplies.

Wondering why an Englishman would be concerned about American domestic matters? Maybe we like to keep our politician's spending in check.

None of your business anyway.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Our country is in a recession right now, and the government keeps telling us how broke they are. :roll:

We are not in a recession and it isn't like the POTUS has any control over the circus that travels with him.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

The First Family pays for their own hotels, homes, etc. but they travel with a tremendous entourage.

That's where the real cost comes from.

I guess that's part of the job for any president. President Bush flew out west to his ranch so often even the White House started calling it "The Western Whitehouse." I had no problem with it because he was the President and the job requires 24/7 access to the assests needed to operate the government. Nobody wants the President to be a hostage to 1600 Pennsyvsina Ave., not Bush, Clinton or any other President I don't think.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

We are not in a recession and it isn't like the POTUS has any control over the circus that travels with him.

Tell that to the people who are out of work and have been, and have run out of unemployment benefits and are no longer counted on the rosters. :roll: Really, how naive. If you had been out job hunting, you would KNOW BETTER than to make that comment.

Also, of course he has control over his staff. Another ridiculous suggestion. :roll: Double eye rolls for both comments.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

The president gets a salary just like congress does....or did you think he works for free?

"Effective January 1, 2001, the annual salary of the President of the United States was increased to $400,000 per year (up from $200K), including a $50,000 expense allowance....
Presidential Pay and Compensation – Pay and Compensation of the President of the United States


I'm pretty sure the president is paying for his vacation rental house.


Did you complain when congress doubled Bush's salary?

Obama's family vacation to Africa cost more than Obama's entire yearly salary and and expense allowances combined and doubled.
And it wasn't a business trip taking care of the official business of state.

With in six weeks of Obama entering the White House Obama realized that the job of POTUS was bigger than he was.
If there was any official state business to be taken care of in Africa, that's what Obama's incompetent State Department is for.

Michelle Obama's hotel bills running all over the world surpasses the President's salary.

Lets not forget Obama's daughters Malia and Natasha little vacations outside of America and the cost of staying at the most expensive hotels, meals, and their five car motorcades.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Tell that to the people who are out of work and have been, and have run out of unemployment benefits and are no longer counted on the rosters. :roll: Really, how naive. If you had been out job hunting, you would KNOW BETTER than to make that comment.

Also, of course he has control over his staff. Another ridiculous suggestion. :roll: Double eye rolls for both comments.

Yeah I live in a city that has had at or near double-digit unemployment since well before Obama was President and I didn't hear too many people outraged when Bush was in Texas so often and so long they came up with a "western White House" logo to disguise to the gullible that he was an absentee President so please spare me the feigned outrage and double-dog eye-rolls.

BTW, most of the "costs" of a Presidential vacation would not be saved by him not going because the same people would still be working somewhere else doing something else while he sat in the Oval Office.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Same is true for Chicago.

When I lived there, every time Obama would come to visit, it seems like I would have to get through a security detail just to get to my own apartment.

The man has no regard for the regular folks. The entire city has to stop and go on lockdown so that he and his wife can have dinner at a friend's. Ridiculous.

I think it started with the Kennedy's and got worse with every Democratic president since. They think they're American royalty.

One of Ronald Reagan's Secret Service agents wrote a book about when he was responsible for protecting Reagan when he was President. He said Reagan would go out of the way to make sure he wasn't an inconvenience to business, jamming up streets, etc.

When Reagan wanted to eat out at a restaurant in the DC area it was one car, climbing up fire escapes, etc. Same true when Reagan was staying at his ranch. One car to a restaurant in Santa Barbara, enter through the back door through the kitchen. Attending church, sneak in sneak out nobody knew he ever was there.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

This dog won't hunt. A big fat yawn. Right wing radio...Epic Fail.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

I'm sorry, but sometimes you just got to call something stupid when it is stupid. This is stupid that the president had to get his dog airlifted to the vacation. Yes, I know Bush wasted money too, but stupid is still stupid. This is stupid.

Unless the dog had his own plane, I don't see this as a big deal. I am more concerned about the 100K leash holder, and the extra plane used so M could depart 4 hours earlier than the pres during one of the earlier Marthas Vinyard visits.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Obama's family vacation to Africa cost more than Obama's entire yearly salary and and expense allowances combined and doubled. And it wasn't a business trip taking care of the official business of state.
Rubbish. The notion that Obama went to Africa and didn't meet with leaders is absurd. He's the first African American president of the US for crying out loud and many expected he would focus more on Africa rather than ignore it like he did during his first term. China, Russia, Brazil have all been heavily investing in Africa and if the US doesn't get it's act together and start investing over there as well it's gonna get left behind. He should have gone over sooner because now it just looks like a guilt trip because he waited so long.

With in six weeks of Obama entering the White House Obama realized that the job of POTUS was bigger than he was. If there was any official state business to be taken care of in Africa, that's what Obama's incompetent State Department is for. Michelle Obama's hotel bills running all over the world surpasses the President's salary.

Lets not forget Obama's daughters Malia and Natasha little vacations outside of America and the cost of staying at the most expensive hotels, meals, and their five car motorcades.

I beg to differ. If the Obama's visit opens up new markets for private investment and businesses (capitalism) then it will more than have paid for itself.....

CNN) -- President Barack Obama concluded his trip to Africa Tuesday after making a final pitch for partnership at a Tanzanian power plant. Some 70% of Africans lack access to reliable electricity, Obama said, and the United States can help bring more power on line.

"The first step that we're going to take is to try to bring electricity to 20 million homes and businesses," he said.

The president spoke at the Symbion Power Plant at Ubungo, was had been idle until the Tanzanian government used U.S. help to revamp it.

"This is just the beginning. We look forward to even more companies joining this effort," he said.

Such partnerships create more jobs and exports in the United States, he said......"

Obama concludes Africa trip - CNN.com

Do you think Nixon went to China because he liked chinese food? Hardly, he went there to open up trade with China for US businesses. Obama is just doing the same thing in Africa....representing US capitalism and trade.

You might want to rethink your blind partisanship because the only thing I can conclude from your remarks is that you're anti-capitalism and hate freedom.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

In other words, linked to the truth tellers, got ya.

It's interesting how you think a paper with a Conservative bias is telling the truth. But Liberal ones lie.

Says a lot about you. You don't care about biased media, as long as it's the right kind of bias.
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Obama's family vacation to Africa cost more than Obama's entire yearly salary and and expense allowances combined and doubled.

Anywhere a President goes for any extended period of time will more than Obama's entire yearly salary and and expense allowances combined and doubled. Where were you when every President before Obama blew their more than their entire yearly salary and and expense allowances combined and doubled on any trip?
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Bush owned the ranch that YOU paid to set up better than Camp David.. security, tech and communications. On top of that YOU paid for his constant flying to the ranch and the extra wages that White House staff most likely get when away from the White House.

Sure Obama rents his place, so what.. it is still far cheaper than outfitting a ranch with the state of the art tech..

LOL. So what's Obama using at the rental? Tin cans and string?
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

Hey, the good news is that Bo wasn't stranded by the sequestration! :golf

Sure, but what about those poor schoolchildren who wanted to see him at the White House? And cancelling the Army's sponsorship of Dale Earnhardt jr.?

We need to focus on the core function of government - entertaining us!

Besides, you don't think Romney's dog would have gotten a lift?
 
Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

snopes.com: Obama Dog Flies on Own Plane

Not the first time this kind of partisan gossip-mongering has gone into a tizzy about Bo being given a separate plane for himself alone. Probably won't be the last. But it is as wrong today as it was in 2010 and 2011. And just as it was on all the previous incarnations, Snopes has firmly declared this rumor FALSE.
 
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