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    Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    At least our republican presidents went to their own ranch, not spending so much of the tax payer dollars.
    Yes, they are and were very wealthy and could afford multiple houses.
    "Being President doesn't change who you are, it reveals who you are"

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    Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Yes, they are and were very wealthy and could afford multiple houses.
    I'm confused by your post. Are you making the point that because Obama does not have as many houses as some past presidents that that justifies taxpayers paying for his vacations?

    Since I don't think we pay the rent on vacation domiciles, the point is not relevant. What is relevant to me is that while Obama is claiming that the sequester has caused closings of public places, including the WH, there still seems to be enough money to fund these vacations and other perks.

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    Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    I'm confused by your post. Are you making the point that because Obama does not have as many houses as some past presidents that that justifies taxpayers paying for his vacations?

    Since I don't think we pay the rent on vacation domiciles, the point is not relevant. What is relevant to me is that while Obama is claiming that the sequester has caused closings of public places, including the WH, there still seems to be enough money to fund these vacations and other perks.
    In addition to the Presidents who had other homes they still did vacations on the taxpayers. So I don't get your point.
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    Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Actually Nixon got rid of his Secret Service detail ten years before his death.
    See link:

    Nixon gives up secret Service protection

    The approximate chronology is:

    8/9/74 Nixon resigns
    3/85 Nixon gives up SS protection
    4/22/94 Nixon dies

    So Nixon did not give up SS protection "when he resigned", but kept it (@ ~$3.0 million per year)
    for over 10 years after leaving office.



    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Nixon was a practicing attorney unlike Clinton and Obama, so he made his bucks early on during his career.
    No he did not make his bucks early in his career.

    He was making so little money in private practice pre-war that he applied for a government job
    and moved all the way across the country when he was hired. He went into politics in 1946,
    not enough time to make any money in private practice before becoming a professional politician.



    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    He made more money during WW ll playing poker in the South Pacific. Lt. Cmdr. Nixon was considered one of the best poker players in the Pacific theater during WW ll. By the time Nixon entered politics right after WW ll he was pretty well off.
    Well off enough to finance round-the clock protection 30 years later? Don't be ridiculous.



    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Also Nixon was an author of many best selling books after his Presidency.

    So no slush funds were needed.
    Copyright royalties might have provided enough by 1985, provided the cost was a lot less than the
    $3million the SS was costing.



    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Nixon was a very generous person. Ask any one who actually knew him.

    Ask any Marine who was White Beach when Nixon would come walking up to them wearing his wingtip shoes while walking along Camp Pendleton beaches. White Beach was his favorite.

    Remember the story of Nixon at night at the Lincoln Memorial talking to the hippies ?

    I have a lady friend who's father was Nixon's chauffeur after he resigned. When Nixon decided to move from San Clemente to a place where he said "Where nobody likes anyone" that being New York City Nixon gave his Cadillac limo to his chauffeur in appreciation for his services.

    Obama compared to Nixon makes Watergate look like an infraction compared to J-walking.
    The private, personal Nixon was by all accounts a very nice man.

    However, Nixon did not leave himself out of the generosity sweepstakes, see link:

    President Nixon's Troublesome Tax Returns

    INCOME TAX PAID
    1969 $328,161 $72,682
    1970 $262,942 $792
    1971 $262,384 $878
    1972 $268,777 $4,298

    That's a tax rate of 6.82% on $1,152,234. I wonder if any Marines were getting away with a rate that low.
    I know that for most of my working life I didn't, and I never made anywhere near $200k in a year.

    And leaving aside the questionable propriety of several of Nixon's deductions, that rate of income
    generation could not have been a significant factor in privately financing security at any time later in Nixon's life.

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    Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Yes, they are and were very wealthy and could afford multiple houses.
    I am not wealthy and have multiple houses. What is your point?
    Obama sure is not poor by any standard.

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    Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

    [QUOTE=Moot;1062178745]I don't give a crap that you don't give a crap about Bush. This country's spending is not out of control. We are a rich country and we have hundreds of millionaires in congress to prove it.



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    Your graph includes state and local governments. Under the Obama administration states and local governments had less money to spend like Detroit.

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    Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

    Here's where I see America's short term memory faltering. I'm telling you, this is the same argument some (many) Anti-Bush people used when he was going on vacations. Some (many) here in the forum who are Anti-Obama had no problem defending GW . . . and still do. If you got a dog in this hunt and you were posting on a political website back eight or ten years or so . . . you may want to double check your memory banks to see if your position has evolved . . . or if you're just a hypocrite. No finger pointing from me, this one is all on you guys.

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    Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    OMG, not the president's excessive vacation spending thread again. Every four years we have these threads.

    When did you ever see a president and family stay in a Motel 6 in your lifetime? Of course it is going to costs thousands.

    Everytime a president has to use a toilet to take a dump am certain some taxpayer's money is used to pay for a secret serviceman to take a dump first to make certain there isn't a bomb.

    You can go back to the time when Nixon turned on the air conditioner in the summer just so he could like a fire in the fireplace. Whine on.
    How do you go from a 7.6million dollar mansion where Obama is airlifting his dog and basketballs on special military aircraft to Motel 6?

    Strawman much?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    Here's where I see America's short term memory faltering. I'm telling you, this is the same argument some (many) Anti-Bush people used when he was going on vacations. Some (many) here in the forum who are Anti-Obama had no problem defending GW . . . and still do. If you got a dog in this hunt and you were posting on a political website back eight or ten years or so . . . you may want to double check your memory banks to see if your position has evolved . . . or if you're just a hypocrite. No finger pointing from me, this one is all on you guys.
    Go ahead and find proof that I defended Bush staying in a 7 million dollar mansion. Find where I defended Bush airlifting his dog and basketballs at taxpayer expense. Oh that's right. That didn't happen. This is the first time those aircraft have ever been used in this capacity. Secondly nobody cares about Bush. Get with the present and stop living in the past. We're 17T in debt. 90% of all jobs created in the economy are part time jobs. Most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. We're hurting as Obama pretends like he's King with our money.
    Last edited by Bronson; 08-13-13 at 02:49 PM.

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    Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

    Quote Originally Posted by USViking View Post
    See link:

    Nixon gives up secret Service protection

    The approximate chronology is:

    8/9/74 Nixon resigns
    3/85 Nixon gives up SS protection
    4/22/94 Nixon dies

    So Nixon did not give up SS protection "when he resigned", but kept it (@ ~$3.0 million per year)
    for over 10 years after leaving office.




    No he did not make his bucks early in his career.

    He was making so little money in private practice pre-war that he applied for a government job
    and moved all the way across the country when he was hired. He went into politics in 1946,
    not enough time to make any money in private practice before becoming a professional politician.




    Well off enough to finance round-the clock protection 30 years later? Don't be ridiculous.




    Copyright royalties might have provided enough by 1985, provided the cost was a lot less than the
    $3million the SS was costing.




    The private, personal Nixon was by all accounts a very nice man.

    However, Nixon did not leave himself out of the generosity sweepstakes, see link:

    President Nixon's Troublesome Tax Returns

    INCOME TAX PAID
    1969 $328,161 $72,682
    1970 $262,942 $792
    1971 $262,384 $878
    1972 $268,777 $4,298

    That's a tax rate of 6.82% on $1,152,234. I wonder if any Marines were getting away with a rate that low.
    I know that for most of my working life I didn't, and I never made anywhere near $200k in a year.

    And leaving aside the questionable propriety of several of Nixon's deductions, that rate of income
    generation could not have been a significant factor in privately financing security at any time later in Nixon's life.
    Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to Nixon. Comparing Obama and Nixon, you must be on Obama's Secret Service watch list.

    I remember what the Europeans had to say about Watergate, how those Americans can turn a mole hill into a mountain.
    You are aware that Hillary Rodman was on the team to take down the President ? It was the agenda of the radical "New Left" to take out Nixon.

    Anyone who served in the military back then remember when it came to income taxes being withheld, you were looking at pennies. Didn't make much money back then. It's been a long time but if I remember correctly, an E-4 with combat pay, it was still less than $300. per month.

    Maybe someone else could chime in, did those serving in the military back then have special tax exemptions ?

    When I first joined the Corps we were paid in cash. On pay day the pay officer would show up with a .45 strapped on his side along with a SNCO with a .45 strapped on his side holding a box full of greenbacks. Except in Nam and it was military script. So you never saw what was being withheld from your pay. Some months later they switched to a pay check and you could see what taxes were being withheld and it seems it was only a few bucks back then.

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    Re: What Sequester? First dog Bo is airlifted to Obama holiday home

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Go ahead and find proof that I defended Bush staying in a 7 million dollar mansion. Find where I defended Bush airlifting his dog and basketballs at taxpayer expense. Oh that's right. That didn't happen. This is the first time those aircraft have ever been used in this capacity. Secondly nobody cares about Bush. Get with the present and stop living in the past. We're 17T in debt. 90% of all jobs created in the economy are part time jobs. Most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. We're hurting as Obama pretends like he's King with our money.
    Apparently, you did not see the word "some". I am sorry you took this personally, but maybe you need to find proof where I specifically pointed to you. I criticized both sides on this issue, because it's stupid. They've been complaining about presidential vacations since Reagan. It's always OK when it's "Their guy" in office.

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