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    Re: Obama : Republicans' 'Unifying Principle' Is Denying Health Care To 30 Million Pe

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Nice abdication.

    The point I was trying to make is the Republican Party has shifted the goal post on a number of occasions on who really is "the taxpayer" in this country. First, it was the corporation. Then it was the small business owner. Then it was the investors of the wealth class. But they never make mention of the working class who although cumulatively don't pay as much in federal income taxes as the few multi-millionaires or billionaires in this country do, I would say that working class (middle-class Americans) paying upwards of 25% of their annual salary in federal income taxes does represent a large sum of taxes paid. And just to be sure, I didn't say "the poor". So, you can forget about countering with the old argument of "'X' amount of people in this country don't pay any federal income taxes". We already know about that.

    Collectively, the middle-class are the "taxpayers" in this country. I don't think anyone can argue against that.
    I can argue that all day long. The middle-class are NOT the "taxpayers" in this country. Far from it.

    I already answered this, seems you missed it. I repeat.

    Now you know who pays the taxes in this country.

    In 2002 the latest year of available data, the top 5 percent of taxpayers paid more than one-half (53.8 percent) of all individual income taxes, but reported roughly one-third (30.6 percent) of income.

    The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid 33.7 percent of all individual income taxes in 2002. This group of taxpayers has paid more than 30 percent of individual income taxes since 1995. Moreover, since 1990 this groupís tax share has grown faster than their income share.

    Taxpayers who rank in the top 50 percent of taxpayers by income pay virtually all individual income taxes. In all years since 1990, taxpayers in this group have paid over 94 percent of all individual income taxes. In 2000, 2001, and 2002, this group paid over 96 percent of the total.

    Who Pays the Most Income Tax?
    Liberals - Punish the Successful, Reward the Unsuccessful
    Liberals - Tax, Borrow, Spend, and Give Free Stuff
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    Re: Obama : Republicans' 'Unifying Principle' Is Denying Health Care To 30 Million Pe

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Now, you're just being foolish.

    The elderly won't turn down Medicare - an insurance program they've paid into all of their working lives.

    Poor people aren't going to refuse Medicaid.

    Military families aren't going to refuse Tri-Care.

    Veterans will seek their VA benefits.

    Employees will first sign up for their employer-sponsored insurance plan before opting out and the primary reason they do opt out is because their spouse has a better policy at a lower cost.

    As to the ObamaCare tax, as long as you have insurance through your employer OR via the exchange (state or federal) OR via a small business co-op OR you receive an approved waiver from the Sec. HHS, you have nothing to worry about.
    You sure do seem very certain about a lot of that. To bad the facts don't back you up. People do refuse to particapte in those programs for what ever reason they want.

    People don't sign up for medicare, Part b in particular, quite often. And if they haven't been talking with the SS office they might be way late with part A. Hey, it's government run.

    I've been eligible to have Tricare as my primary insurance since 1996. never have. Just like many people I know. I couldn't begin to tell you how to set up a doctor's appointment through Tricare.

    I've had VA health benefits since 2000, never used them. Just like many people I know. I couldn't begin to tell you how to set up a doctor's appointment through the VA.

    The Obamacare tax was never about anybody that already had health insurance. it's all about screwing people out of their freedoms and controlling their lives.

    I've know a couple of knuckleheads to refuse employer sponsored insurance because they didn't want to pay the monthly bill, as small as it was. Dumb, well, not if they don't get sick or hurt. And if they get hurt on the job, they are covered with worker's comp. And in a car wreck, with auto insurance to a degree. At least, that's how they explain it and they have a point.

    You want to tell me everybody authorized Medicaid is on it? LOL. No chance. Some don't want it, to lazy to do the paper work, or something. That's just the way life works.

    Now, who's being foolish? facts are facts. If you don't want to join up in a program, for whatever reason, you won't. Just as I said.

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