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    re: Obama : Republicans' 'Unifying Principle' Is Denying Health Care To 30 Million People

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    You think the health care system we had previously, a system where people could be denied insurance coverage because of a pre existing conditions, to be better then a health care system where a person cannot be denied coverage because of preexisting.
    I think implying that we can afford all of this, the growing amount waivers given to many groups and requested by more, the idea that the government can make individuals purchase something they absolutely do not care to have, to force others who are willing to pay for their own to pay for others who may not want it and will not/cannot pay, to have a law that did not get one vote from the opposing team, that this law will just addict more people to the already almost all inclusive list of Americans the Feddies are addicting to the Federal Government [to what actual end?], the fact that, since there are not unlimited funds, we will have to make some restrictions whichever way we go, the fact that if the government decides you do not get [ with, maybe even, the IRS deciding who gets and who does not get closer scrutiny, deciding who gets/deserves care...], the government being in control of your medical records... I mean the list keeps going on and on with a 3000 page bill with at least 10 thousand pages of statutes to follow...

    Yes, I am willing to work hard on that one thing you query...but not at the expense of all the above and more... btw, what percentage of the population had that problem anyhow?
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    Republicans' 'Unifying Principle' Is Denying Health Care To 30 Million People

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    I think implying that we can afford all of this, the growing amount waivers given to many groups and requested by more, the idea that the government can make individuals purchase something they absolutely do not care to have, to force others who are willing to pay for their own to pay for others who may not want it and will not/cannot pay, to have a law that did not get one vote from the opposing team, that this law will just addict more people to the already almost all inclusive list of Americans the Feddies are addicting to the Federal Government [to what actual end?], the fact that, since there are not unlimited funds, we will have to make some restrictions whichever way we go, the fact that if the government decides you do not get [ with, maybe even, the IRS deciding who gets and who does not get closer scrutiny, deciding who gets/deserves care...], the government being in control of your medical records... I mean the list keeps going on and on with a 3000 page bill with at least 10 thousand pages of statutes to follow...
    Well, fascism has a pretty good track record.

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    re: Obama : Republicans' 'Unifying Principle' Is Denying Health Care To 30 Million People

    A symphony of talking points.

    Fascinating.

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    re: Obama : Republicans' 'Unifying Principle' Is Denying Health Care To 30 Million People

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    You think the health care system we had previously, a system where people could be denied insurance coverage because of a pre existing conditions, to be better then a health care system where a person cannot be denied coverage because of preexisting conditions.
    I don't know about him but yes the old way was better.

    And start telling the whole truth on preexisting conditions. It varied state by state by after a certain period of time, you got insurance. In other words you signed up and paid for insurance, the insurance covered everything but the preexisting condition for say 12 months, then insurance started paying. Each state was just different. Wasn't like you had to always be without health insurance unless you didn't want it.

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    re: Obama : Republicans' 'Unifying Principle' Is Denying Health Care To 30 Million People

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It shows the desperation.
    I am pretty sure being on top and winning the election and not having to worry about another term is not desperate. I do not think that word means what you think it means. We already know english is your third language so please actually put forth an rebuttal next time.

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    re: Obama : Republicans' 'Unifying Principle' Is Denying Health Care To 30 Million People

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I was thinking just the other day how Obama's terms will go down in the history books as the lost decade.
    Subtitle: How America Lost Its Way

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    re: Obama : Republicans' 'Unifying Principle' Is Denying Health Care To 30 Million People

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    That may be true, but that is a different 30 million.
    Well which 30 million Americans matters most to Obama? And that's pretending the 30 million number he was using was accurate. But say it is. Why did he pass a law making it his number 1 priority to deny or make out of reach for the CBO's 30 million people not to get health insurance. He had no excuse. He was in the White House, Dems had the Senate, Dems had the House. What did any of those 30 million people do to him, to cause him to hate them so much that he, by plan and design will leave them out on what he has foolishly said was a basic human right?

    Now back when the Unafforable health care act was being debated, the now CBO's 30 million didn't exist. That too was by design as the liars (Dems) told the CBO what parameters they had to use, not only on people numbers by money numbers. Of course thinking people that took a little time and read up a little bit were already ahead of the CBO (at least officially).

    I wish I had a quarter for every lie Obama, his cabinet and the rest of the Dems have told on this dirt dumb law. I'd be mega rich already and plenty more rolling in everyday.

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    re: Obama : Republicans' 'Unifying Principle' Is Denying Health Care To 30 Million People

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    I don't know about him but yes the old way was better.

    And start telling the whole truth on preexisting conditions. It varied state by state by after a certain period of time, you got insurance. In other words you signed up and paid for insurance, the insurance covered everything but the preexisting condition for say 12 months, then insurance started paying. Each state was just different. Wasn't like you had to always be without health insurance unless you didn't want it.
    You're either woefully ignorant or intentionally lying. People could not only be denied health insurance for pre-existing conditions, but in some cases if they got diagnosed with a dread disease they could be dropped.

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    re: Obama : Republicans' 'Unifying Principle' Is Denying Health Care To 30 Million People

    Quote Originally Posted by Sykes View Post
    I have been wondering this for a very long time.
    Been wondering what? If Obama would give you a talking point to post about?
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    re: Obama : Republicans' 'Unifying Principle' Is Denying Health Care To 30 Million People

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    You think the health care system we had previously, a system where people could be denied insurance coverage because of a pre existing conditions, to be better then a health care system where a person cannot be denied coverage because of preexisting conditions.
    That is one of the smallest parts of the ACA. But it does bring to mind a question related to it... if insurers are now forced to cover expensive conditions they previously did not, how does the word 'Affordable' fit into the whole Obamacare thing?
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