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Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ [W:161]

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Well, that's what the Libbos want us to believe. The Leftists have far more to gain from racial divisions than any other party.

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Actually, they were nonfunctioning rifles. Per a longstanding Secret Service regulation. Or not. But if your blog is believable, so is this one.

On the other hand, based on some of his other blog entries, I think the writer of this one is actually insane. But you can't believe everything you read off the internet anyway.
 
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Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

Citation.

Prove me wrong. The Libbos have yet to try and build harmony among the races. They look for "racism" under every rock.
 
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Prove me wrong. The Libbos have yet to try and build harmony among the races. They look for "racism" under every rock.

NO. It doesn't work like that. You made an assertion that you can't prove. That means it is your opinion, and your opinion only.
 
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“Disarmed Marines” at Inauguration Debunked | Veterans Today

Actually, they were nonfunctioning rifles. Per a longstanding Secret Service regulation. Or not. But if your blog is believable, so is this one.

On the other hand, based on some of his other blog entries, I think the writer of this one is actually insane. But you can't believe everything you read off the internet anyway.

A Secret Service agent says, "oh, we've always done that"? uh...ok.
 
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NO. It doesn't work like that. You made an assertion that you can't prove. That means it is your opinion, and your opinion only.

Yes, it does work that way. My opinion is valid, unless you can prove me wrong.
 
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A Secret Service agent says, "oh, we've always done that"? uh...ok.

So you have knowledge that contradicts it? Blog vs. blog -- you just want to believe one because it's critical of Obama.
 
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So you have knowledge that contradicts it? Blog vs. blog -- you just want to believe one because it's critical of Obama.

Please provide evidence that was done in past inauguration parades. Thanks.
 
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Yes, it does work that way. My opinion is valid, unless you can prove me wrong.

"I'm right and you're wrong."

Funny, Sykes said "That means it is your opinion, and your opinion only."

To which you said: "My opinion is valid"

So actually, you agree that it's your opinion.
 
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Please provide evidence that was done in past inauguration parades. Thanks.

I gave evidence that it's a longstanding policy of the Secret Service. At least as much evidence as you had.
 
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"I'm right and you're wrong."

Funny, Sykes said "That means it is your opinion, and your opinion only."

To which you said: "My opinion is valid"

So actually, you agree that it's your opinion.

I never said it wasn't my opinion. Sykes is trying to say that since it's an opinion, it's wrong...time to prove me wrong But, we call know that not going to happen, but rather a huge trollage team will pounce to argue with me about whether, or not, I was stating an opinion.
 
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I gave evidence that it's a longstanding policy of the Secret Service. At least as much evidence as you had.

No, you provided hearsay, not evidence.
 
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I never said it wasn't my opinion. Sykes is trying to say that since it's an opinion, it's wrong...time to prove me wrong But, we call know that not going to happen, but rather a huge trollage team will pounce to argue with me about whether, or not, I was stating an opinion.

Nobody bothers trying to prove opinions as erroneous. It's like trying to prove faith.
 
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I'm not going to discuss biomechanical engineering with you. I ran a rather large company for thirty years. The truth is, I support the idea of alternative energy but most of what I have seen from the current administration is misplaced resources and unsound business practices in the name of alternative energy. Most of the electric cars on the road require government subsidies to be affordable. Wind energy requires a very long time to pay back the investment in equipment. Ethanol is an energy deficient process that takes a food source and turns it into a product that eats gaskets in pipelines so has to be transported by truck.

I'm in favor of perfecting the technology but bringing the technology to market before it's ready just slows progress and puts alternative energy in a bad light. Look at what's happening in the news right now with Terry McAuliffe.

I am more interested in the business of alternative energy than it's production though and I am sure your depth of knowledge about the science of sustainable energy is far greater than any I will ever acquire. If you want to talk about the business model of Soylindra or a Tesla turning into a brick when the battery runs dead, I'm in.

Good luck with Uncle Tom by the way although I don't know if you want to talk about race or literature.

I appreciate that response so thank you.
My point as it related to Sarah Palin was that she made it very clear during her run in '08 that she was very serious about cutting funding for basic research which she deemed "useless" or a waste of time. The reason I asked what you did is that if you were in a science field you would have no excuse for sweeping that under the rug. However, I do not expect people from outside a STEM field to know exactly how all the research works so I won't hold it against you here. As an engineer we basically apply concepts discovered via basic scientific research to real world problems. Say applying research on the ability of plants to "search" for the ideal angle to gather sunlight to solar panel technology.

Now the team or teams of scientists who originally carried out the plant research might not have even had that application in mind while they were working but that is where it proved useful. Basic research is rarely conducted, particularly at the university-level, with a specific application in mind. So cutting "useless" research is an incredibly stupid idea and is basically a death sentence to innovation.

On the business end of it, the unavoidable truth is that Solyndra never should have gotten the grant money. From what I have seen they had basically no plan and no experience. With that said, I am not at all convinced that Barrack Obama himself is the one who made the decision to fund the company. Now I realize that as President, he is ultimately responsible for the money sent out under his policies but it is a little disingenuous to say it is his fault Solyndra wasted that money. The best way to fix that is to streamline the process of securing grant money making it easier for people with the experience and know-how to get the money they need.

As far as McAuliffe, I don't see that that situation is related. It seems that this is more a case of shady businessmen that just happened to own a green energy company. Maybe you can share the connection you are drawing there.

Oh and sorry about the Uncle Tom thing hahaha I definitely meant Uncle Sam. Posting at 3am while running on five cups of coffee does not make for coherent posts.
 
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The president is our servant. He is the servant of the military. He does not get to take their rights away. The president causing people to loose their right to self defense is about as unAmerican as it gets.
Ooo, the forefathers must be rolling in their graves to hear you say that.
 
Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

Nobody bothers trying to prove opinions as erroneous. It's like trying to prove faith.

Well, not really, but whatever.
 
Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

Well, that's what the Libbos want us to believe. The Leftists have far more to gain from racial divisions than any other party.

First of all, I was talking about political divisions. Racial divisive?

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Fact is, the leftists don't have to do anything to feed racial divisions, the republican party does that all for them. The leftists just have to point it out and they don't have to look hard for examples.
 
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Ooo, the forefathers must be rolling in their graves to hear you say that.

How do you figure that?
 
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First of all, I was talking about political divisions. Racial divisive?

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Fact is, the leftists don't have to do anything to feed racial divisions, the republican party does that all for them. The leftists just have to point it out and they don't have to look hard for examples.

Yeah, keep dreaming that it all white people's fault.
 
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The extreme divide has more to do with the extremely divided republican party than the democratic party.

To win elections the republican party has to placate the extreme religious/extreme (please note, I did not say extremist) right side of their party.

I have been very closely following US presidential elections since 1988 during the George Bush senior ran against Dukakis. This was already a bit on the nasty side with the Willy Horton adds but compared to how the US political scene is now, that election was relatively polite compared to later elections. Ever since the hawks/right side of the republican party has tasted the success of the Bush junior presidential victories they have become a very very vocal minority in the republican party. Together with the extremely religious part of the republican party, main stream republican politicians/presidential candidates have to bend over backwards to get nominated/elected.

Look at Mitt Romney, who had to run on a platform of being a very very very conservative republican to even get nominated, after which he had to try and etch-a-sketch himself to even make a chance to get elected.

It is not the democratic party or it's president who have moved from their political position (or not much at least) but it has been the republican party who has moved towards the right so much that it has lead to at least a very extreme political divisiveness in the US political scene. Not even the great republican take-over of 1994 was so divisive as the current Republican congress. They worked (forced due to the realities of the time) with Bill Clinton to have a prosperous time with much better fiscal balance that since then.

But democrats are also to blame for the bad fiscal balance of today but as the republicans have control of the house and they have clearly proven their insistence not to want to work with Obama no matter what (to save their own skins in the next election cycle because if they do not they will be toppled by tea-party members from their cushy congressional seats/senate seats). The total number of ridiculous votes against Obamacare proves IMHO that the republicans are only interested in working against Obama and have no wish to compromise in any way shape or form.

The problem today in the Republican Party is that nobody is in charge. This has been true since 2010 when the neoconservatives lost control of the GOP.

You mention "hawks/right side" of the Republican Party and G.W. Bush. Those are not the right side of the GOP but neoconservatives. I wish people would do their home work and they would discover that neoconservatives are not conservatives but are liberal refuges who fled the Democrat Party during the late 60's and throughout the 70's and came under the GOP tent.

The conservative base of the Republican Party controlled the Party throughout the 80's and early 90's until they lost control to the neoconservatives. That's how G.W. Bush won the GOP nomination at the RNC in 2000.

The neoconservatives lost control of the Republican Party in 2010 and nobody is in control of the GOP today.

The Tea Party movement is not a political party, it's a movement. And not all members of that movement are Republicans, it also includes Libertarians and independents.

It's the Democrat Party who has moved extremely to the left over the past four decades. This is what caused so many liberals to leave the Democrat Party. Many became neoconservatives while many just became independents. Where did the "Reagan Democrats" go ?

If you look under the Democrat Party tent today you will notice that it's a carnival. When you walk down the mid-way you will see the majority of society isn't represented. That the Party is made up of small interest groups each only representing the interest of a small fraction of society. The reason the Democrat Party are all in lock-step because the rules are we will support your special interest group radical agenda as long as you support my radical agenda for my special interest group no matter how loony it is. The Democrat Party is no longer what's best for America, and the majority of Americans but what's best for the Democrat Party and what's best for a minority of Americans.
 
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Yeah, keep dreaming that it all white people's fault.

Deflection. Can't deal with the tea partiers signs. It's who these people are, and more to the point, be honest, it's who you are, isn't it?
 
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Yeah, keep dreaming that it all white people's fault.

Would you care to explain that?

People of any creed or color can be racist but it certainly seems that you are implying more than that and I would love to hear what you have to say.
 
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Would you care to explain that?

People of any creed or color can be racist but it certainly seems that you are implying more than that and I would love to hear what you have to say.

The mantra of the Libbos is always, "if wasn't for all the racist Conservative white people", there would be no racism. Peter King proved my point eloquently.
 
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The problem today in the Republican Party is that nobody is in charge. This has been true since 2010 when the neoconservatives lost control of the GOP.

You mention "hawks/right side" of the Republican Party and G.W. Bush. Those are not the right side of the GOP but neoconservatives. I wish people would do their home work and they would discover that neoconservatives are not conservatives but are liberal refuges who fled the Democrat Party during the late 60's and throughout the 70's and came under the GOP tent.

The conservative base of the Republican Party controlled the Party throughout the 80's and early 90's until they lost control to the neoconservatives. That's how G.W. Bush won the GOP nomination at the RNC in 2000.

The neoconservatives lost control of the Republican Party in 2010 and nobody is in control of the GOP today.

The Tea Party movement is not a political party, it's a movement. And not all members of that movement are Republicans, it also includes Libertarians and independents.

It's the Democrat Party who has moved extremely to the left over the past four decades. This is what caused so many liberals to leave the Democrat Party. Many became neoconservatives while many just became independents. Where did the "Reagan Democrats" go ?

If you look under the Democrat Party tent today you will notice that it's a carnival. When you walk down the mid-way you will see the majority of society isn't represented. That the Party is made up of small interest groups each only representing the interest of a small fraction of society. The reason the Democrat Party are all in lock-step because the rules are we will support your special interest group radical agenda as long as you support my radical agenda for my special interest group no matter how loony it is. The Democrat Party is no longer what's best for America, and the majority of Americans but what's best for the Democrat Party and what's best for a minority of Americans.

The democratic party has moved on with the times but has not changed much since the Clinton years, unlike the republican party of which parts have moved so far away from the center that if they do not change their ways they will keep loosing big elections they have not been able to gerrymander. Or worse, have taken steps to make sure that as many democratic voters as possible are disenfranchised.
 
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Would you care to explain that?

People of any creed or color can be racist but it certainly seems that you are implying more than that and I would love to hear what you have to say.

See?

Deflection. Can't deal with the tea partiers signs. It's who these people are, and more to the point, be honest, it's who you are, isn't it?

Anyone who isn't wearing their blinders and isn't lockstep with Obama is automatically labeled a racist.
 
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