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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    It's so much fun to watch the non-racists rush to make excuses for racism.


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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Isn't the song "Baa Baa Black Sheep?" I've never heard of "Bye Bye Black Sheep."
    It's "Baa Baa Black Sheep."

    That's the one back in the old days all children sang in nursery school and elementary school.

    From what I'm reading on all of the liberal websites, I guess it's not politically correct so I doubt children sing it any longer.

    The libs will probably want the syndication of "Baa Baa Black Sheep" to be pulled from television. Baa Baa Black Sheep (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's so much fun to watch the non-racists rush to make excuses for racism.
    Rocket88, what's the definition of a racist ?

    Whatever happened to calling people prejudice ? You don't hear it being used as much any more.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

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    The libs will probably want the syndication of "Baa Baa Black Sheep" to be pulled from television. Baa Baa Black Sheep (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]
    ... I find it funny that you didn't even read the link. The link you posted actually states that the syndication of the show CHANGED the name of the show. However, I'm sure you didn't stop to read that bit in your ridiculous attempt to pull up some obscure TV show from the 1970s that nobody watched and drag it into a conversation that had nothing to do with it.

    The IRONY of your link is just astounding.

    Here is the first line of that link:

    Baa Baa Black Sheep (later syndicated as Black Sheep Squadron) is a television series that aired on NBC from 1976 until 1978.
    So in essence, you pulled up an obscure TV show, that had an equally offensive name - as an example of a show libs would want to cancel, not knowing that the name of the show had been changed while syndicated - because you know - the name just might be offensive.

    Talk about a fail.
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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    I'm just wondering if it was the protestors who changed the lyrics (in which case, the song doesn't really make sense) or if the newspaper doesn't even know the title of a common nursery rhyme.

    Were they chanting "bye bye black sheep" or were they singing "baa baa black sheep?" There is a significant difference.

    In case anyone is wondering what the possible relevance could be, they may want to review the lyrics of the rhyme and consider how they could possibly be relevant.
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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... I find it funny that you didn't even read the link. The link you posted actually states that the syndication of the show CHANGED the name of the show. However, I'm sure you didn't stop to read that bit in your ridiculous attempt to pull up some obscure TV show from the 1970s that nobody watched and drag it into a conversation that had nothing to do with it.

    The IRONY of your link is just astounding.

    Here is the first line of that link:



    So in essence, you pulled up an obscure TV show, that had an equally offensive name - as an example of a show libs would want to cancel, not knowing that the name of the show had been changed while syndicated - because you know - the name just might be offensive.

    Talk about a fail.
    I failed ???

    I'll admit I didn't go to the link because I read the book and have personally known Gregory Boyington through my father.

    The reason it was syndicated under "Black Sheep Squadron" is because VMF-314 is Black Sheep squadron.
    Today it's VMFA-314 because they fly the FA-18. (fighter-attack)

    The original television series "Baa Baa Black Sheep" is from Col. Gregory (Pappy) Boyington's USMCR ret. RIP own autobiography which was titled "Baa Baa Black Sheep." In the book he describes how the VMF-314 ended up with the name Black Sheep. It had to do because Gregory Boyington was a black sheep with in the Marine Corps and when they formed VMF-314 they scrounged through the Corps picking up the other Marine pilots that no other squadron wanted.

    Boyington was a strapper and he loved to fisticuff. He was also an alcoholic and chased the skirts. He was awarded the CMO and eventually not even the Corps could handle him and was forced to retire.

    ACCOMPLISHMENT RECORD OF THE "BLACK SHEEP" SQUADRON UNDER MAJOR GREGORY BOYINGTON, USMCR.
    Two tours : 12 September, 1943 -- 24 October, 1943.
    27 November, 1943 -- 8 January, 1944.
    94 Enemy planes destroyed in aerial combat, (92 if them fighter planes, 91 of them over enemy territory).
    32 Enemy planes probably destroyed in aerial combat.
    50 Enemy planes damaged in aerial combat.
    21 Enemy planes destroyed on the ground.
    197 Total Enemy planes destroyed, probably destroyed or damaged.
    1 100-foot AK destroyed.
    1 50-foot AK destroyed.
    1 70-foot Japanese-operated Chinese Junk destroyed.
    1 70-foot steam launch destroyed.
    20 Japanese barges destroyed.
    3 Japanese barges loaded with troops destroyed.
    1 Raft loaded with enemy troops destroyed.
    15 other craft probably destroyed.
    125 Japanese bivouac and concentration areas and AA positions on New Ireland, New Britain, Buka, Bougainville and the Shortlands strafed.
    4 Japanese airfields strafed : Kahili, Kara, Ballale, and Borpop.
    Successfully intercepted enemy formation attempting to attack task force reinforcing Barakoma.
    Assisted Bougainville ground troops in an untenable position by strafing enemy mortar positions.

    Participated in over 200 combat missions, flying 4,195 combat hours.


    This combat record was established with the loss of 12 pilots missing in action and 6 wounded in action.

    Only 1 pilot was injured and none killed in operational accidents.

    HyperWar: THE COMBAT STRATEGY AND TACTICS OF MAJOR GREGORY BOYINGTON, USMCR

    I have no idea what the big fuss is over being called a black sheep. Maybe some liberal will enlighten me.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's "Baa Baa Black Sheep."

    That's the one back in the old days all children sang in nursery school and elementary school.

    From what I'm reading on all of the liberal websites, I guess it's not politically correct so I doubt children sing it any longer.

    The libs will probably want the syndication of "Baa Baa Black Sheep" to be pulled from television. Baa Baa Black Sheep (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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    I thought he was half white, quarter arab, quarter black.
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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I failed ???

    I'll admit I didn't go to the link because I read the book and have personally known Gregory Boyington through my father.

    The reason it was syndicated under "Black Sheep Squadron" is because VMF-314 is Black Sheep squadron.
    Today it's VMFA-314 because they fly the FA-18. (fighter-attack)

    The original television series "Baa Baa Black Sheep" is from Col. Gregory (Pappy) Boyington's USMCR ret. RIP own autobiography which was titled "Baa Baa Black Sheep." In the book he describes how the VMF-314 ended up with the name Black Sheep. It had to do because Gregory Boyington was a black sheep with in the Marine Corps and when they formed VMF-314 they scrounged through the Corps picking up the other Marine pilots that no other squadron wanted.

    Boyington was a strapper and he loved to fisticuff. He was also an alcoholic and chased the skirts. He was awarded the CMO and eventually not even the Corps could handle him and was forced to retire.

    ACCOMPLISHMENT RECORD OF THE "BLACK SHEEP" SQUADRON UNDER MAJOR GREGORY BOYINGTON, USMCR.
    Two tours : 12 September, 1943 -- 24 October, 1943.
    27 November, 1943 -- 8 January, 1944.
    94 Enemy planes destroyed in aerial combat, (92 if them fighter planes, 91 of them over enemy territory).
    32 Enemy planes probably destroyed in aerial combat.
    50 Enemy planes damaged in aerial combat.
    21 Enemy planes destroyed on the ground.
    197 Total Enemy planes destroyed, probably destroyed or damaged.
    1 100-foot AK destroyed.
    1 50-foot AK destroyed.
    1 70-foot Japanese-operated Chinese Junk destroyed.
    1 70-foot steam launch destroyed.
    20 Japanese barges destroyed.
    3 Japanese barges loaded with troops destroyed.
    1 Raft loaded with enemy troops destroyed.
    15 other craft probably destroyed.
    125 Japanese bivouac and concentration areas and AA positions on New Ireland, New Britain, Buka, Bougainville and the Shortlands strafed.
    4 Japanese airfields strafed : Kahili, Kara, Ballale, and Borpop.
    Successfully intercepted enemy formation attempting to attack task force reinforcing Barakoma.
    Assisted Bougainville ground troops in an untenable position by strafing enemy mortar positions.

    Participated in over 200 combat missions, flying 4,195 combat hours.


    This combat record was established with the loss of 12 pilots missing in action and 6 wounded in action.

    Only 1 pilot was injured and none killed in operational accidents.

    HyperWar: THE COMBAT STRATEGY AND TACTICS OF MAJOR GREGORY BOYINGTON, USMCR

    I have no idea what the big fuss is over being called a black sheep. Maybe some liberal will enlighten me.
    Oh good lord. If you are going to claim to personally know a historical figure, at least do a tiny bit of research and not just base your claims on a TV show that Boyington himself called fiction. Unlike the TV show, the squadron got its name because they wanted something tough sounding. The name Boyington's Bastards was rejected because newspapers would not print it, and Black Sheep means basically the same thing(or so they reasoned). In fact, unlike the TV series, they where not discipline problems and rejects.

    It is sad in that the real life exploits of the squadron where truly remarkable, and Boyington bringing them together into a solid unit in little time and initially no aircraft is a feat that deserves recognition. There is no need to exaggerate, and yet you had to do so.
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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Well America hasn't been this much divided since pre Civil War 1800's.
    Just to clarify:

    You honestly think that this country is more divided at this moment than it was DURING the Civil War?

    I don't think that is what you meant but I suppose that just goes to show that the folks in your camp really do not listen to themselves.

    Returning to topic, as an Arizona resident I can tell you from experience that racism and division are the status quo of local politics

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I suppose it all depends which paper your reading or what website your reading from. It seems most are taking words out of context.
    That the protester were protesting how America has become so divided during the Obama administration. Sounds pretty legit and accurate. How many tens of millions of Americans who may have opposed one of Obama's policies and haven't been labled by the left as being racist ?
    She's not talking about his policies. She's standing there chanting "bye bye black sheep" and calling Obama a half white muslim and then blaming him for the racial divide.

    A few years ago the SPLC labled anyone who opposed Obama Care as being racist.
    Gee, I wonder why?



    Couldn't find any connection to the TEA Party movement with the three names mentioned.
    Judy Burris on some websites claims to be some what liberal.
    Oh good, for a minute there I thought you were apologizing for the racists.

    >" Obama foes at one point sang, "Bye Bye Black Sheep," a derogatory reference to the president's skin color, while protesters like Deanne Bartram raised a sign saying, "Impeach the Half-White Muslim!"

    Deanna Bartram, a 17-year-old University of Arizona student from Black Canyon City, lashed out at people who call her racist for not supporting Obama. She believes Obama supporters use the “race card” against her because they disagree with her political message.

    “Obama is ruining American values. He is ruining the Constitution. He needs to go back to where he came from because obviously, he is a liar,” she said. “I am not racist. I am part Indian. Obama’s half Black, half White.”

    “He’s 47 percent Negro,” shouted Ron Enderle, a 77-year-old Chandler resident who said that he and his son served as Marines and his grandson is currently serving in the Marines.

    Judy Burris said that she blames Obama for racism in America reaching heights not seen since the 1960s Civil-Rights Era.

    “We have gone back so many years,” she said. “He’s divided all the races. I hate him for that.” "<
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/politi...nclick_check=1
    The protestors seem very focused on Obama's race and not his policies.


    BTW: When did "black sheep" become derogatory ? Probably since today. Those poor Marines at MCAS Miramar are going to be stuck on the base all weekend long removing the VMFA 314 squadron logo from their FA-18's and searching for a new squadron name. Pappy Boyington is probably turning over in his grave.
    It seems to have always had a negative connotation meaning "the other."

    "..In the English language, black sheep is an idiom used to describe an odd or disreputable member of a group, especially within a family......The term has typically been given negative implications, implying waywardness.[1] It derived from the atypical and unwanted presence of other black individuals in flocks of white sheep....
    Black sheep - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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