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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I have no idea what your talking about. But here's what I was referring to....


    "...Ron Paul’s Iowa chair, Drew Ivers, recently touted the endorsement of Rev. Phillip G. Kayser, a pastor at the Dominion Covenant Church in Nebraska who also draws members from Iowa, putting out a press release praising “the enlightening statements he makes on how Ron Paul’s approach to government is consistent with Christian beliefs.” But Kayser’s views on homosexuality go way beyond the bounds of typical anti-gay evangelical politics and into the violent fringe: he recently authored a paper arguing for criminalizing homosexuality and even advocated imposing the death penalty against offenders based on his reading of Biblical law.

    Reached by phone, Kayser confirmed to TPM that he believed in reinstating Biblical punishments for homosexuals — including the death penalty — even if he didn’t see much hope for it happening anytime soon. While he said he and Paul disagree on gay rights, noting that Paul recently voted for repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, he supported the campaign because he believed Paul’s federalist take on the Constitution would allow states more latitude to implement fundamentalist law. Especially since under Kayser’s own interpretation of the Constitution there is no separation of Church and State...."
    Death Penalty For Gays: Ron Paul Courts The Religious Fringe In Iowa | TPM2012


    And then there's this....


    The private member's bill was submitted by Member of Parliament David Bahati on 14 October 2009. Same-sex relationships are currently illegal in Uganda—as they are in many sub-Saharan African countries—punishable by incarceration in prison for up to 14 years. A special motion to introduce the legislation was passed a month after a two-day conference was held in which three American Christians asserted that homosexuality is a direct threat to the cohesion of African families. Several sources have noted endemic homophobia in Uganda has been exacerbated by the bill and the associated discussions about it.

    The bill divides homosexual behavior into two categories: "aggravated homosexuality", in which an offender would receive the death penalty, or "the offence of homosexuality" in which an offender would receive life imprisonment..."
    Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Oh and lets not forget the statistics of hate crimes against Gays exacerbated by conservative anti-gay rhetoric.....


    "...The recent wave of violent attacks against LGBT people in New York City has been startling. According to New York City police the number of antigay hate crimes has doubled from 14 to 29 as of May. In the LGBT community many people think of New York City as a place of acceptance and progressive attitudes, which is why these violent attacks are even more alarming. How does this compare to national data? According to the FBI’s Hate Crime’s Data the number of reported hate crimes overall is going down (e.g., 21% for African Americans since 1996), but hate crimes based on sexual orientation are not declining. In fact the number of reported anti-gay hate crimes rose slightly in 2011 to 1,553 from 1,443 in 1996. This means there are currently similar levels of anti-gay hate crimes as there are hate crimes based on religion (1,480), but about half those based on race (3,645). The majority (57%) were victims of an offender’s anti-male gay bias. Note that the FBI does not report statistics about anti-transgender hate crimes and that these data only represent hate crimes that are reported to the policy and then to the FBI...."
    Research Blog > Are Violent Hate Crimes Against LGBT People on the Rise? | IMPACT Program



    Thats what I meant by "it's understandable considering what some conservatives had done to Gays".
    Show me where you get the thought that all "American Christians" are conservative. I didn't see that in what you posted.

    You put some data up on "gay hate crimes". Where does it say those committing the crimes were conservative? I'd be willing to bet those committing such "crimes" are just as likely to have voted for Obama as Romney. Maybe even more so.

    I'll let Ron Paul explain the other.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    You're not denying it, but others here are saying it's a "liberal plant."
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    That's fine. One, other's aren't me. Two, I just said it's silly to deny that there are some in. Would you say the same of others here who are claiming this as some broad representation of the "Tea Party" or "GOP"?
    Hey Rocket...you went quiet in terms of responding to me after this post so not sure if maybe you just somehow missed it. What would your answer to the question posed in that post be?

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Did somebody say "liberal plant"? Please allow me to utilize some of my considerable expertise on the subject.

    This is a liberal plant:

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    as is this:

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    but this is a conservative plant:

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    See the difference?
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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Hey Rocket...you went quiet in terms of responding to me after this post so not sure if maybe you just somehow missed it. What would your answer to the question posed in that post be?
    I know better

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    You'll love this one then.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    l am glad they didnt throw banana at obama's face
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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    l am glad they didnt throw banana at obama's face
    Why is that?

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why is that?
    dont you know what banana means ?

    l know you know
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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Disassociate yourself from them, particularly as is often the case with racist and crypto racist statements, when the leaders of a certain movement are the very stupid people at issue.

    Palin anybody? Ted Cruz? Bachmann?

    Instead what conservatives tend to do (at least conservatives of the tea party type) is to defend the racism, downplay it, and deflect.

    Witness some of the posts on this thread.

    I suppose I am one of those people *shrug*. It seems many people take racial remarks or remarks never intended to be racist and get all worked up over it. If people would stop getting so worked up over it racial statements would lose their power. Instead people will often overlook the message, in this case that these people seem to be unhappy with Obama, and will fixate on the words used to deliver that message. Me, you can call any racist name/comment you can imagine and it doesn't bother me one iota. The reason you are upset enough with me to be calling me names (racial or non racial) is what I would be concerned about not with what you are calling me.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    dont you know what banana means ?

    l know you know
    You are referring to the fruit, I suppose, so yes, I know what a banana is.

    But why would anyone want to throw bananas at the US President? Feel free to explain yourself.

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