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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    you talked about it not only being down to the white people. Well, slavery was down to the white people, the KKK was down to the white people, lynchings were down to the white people, segregation and the oppression of blacks was down to the whites.

    Sorry to say it, but racism is a very white thing. Yes, it also exists in blacks, Asians and Hispanics but in the US racism was very much a white thing and the last vestiges of that racism was segregation.

    And in this day and age some republican states/republicans are doing their best to repress the vote from democrats (of which a huge number is black or hispanic). It was not for nothing that for decades Southern states had to ask if they wanted to change voting laws. That was until the supreme court thought that it was no longer necessary, sadly they were wrong because it took, for example, Texas 2 hours to start making voting laws that disenfranchises voters, a lot of them black or hispanic. And they were not the only states who took similar actions.

    And you may not feel these laws and actions are racist, I do not know if you do or not, but I am pretty sure that black voters will think very differently.
    And, you took that as some twisted license to jump on it like a duck on a june bug, too. Awesome job of proving my point, though.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Judging the group by the minority is a common trait of racist think.

    You're correct though, the extreme minority of white racists have a much larger impact on race relations than the president of the united states, who constantly butts into racially charged issues, often parroting the emotional and reactionary responses of those who wish to see racism around every corner.
    Well, as an African American he has a bit more feeling with these kinds of issues. And where most white people do not see racism, does not mean that blacks do not see racism on a regular basis. People who do not suffer racism are not as likely to feel racism. And right or not, the word racial profiling is around and happens. While it may not be representative of all things, this week on (I think it was) the Daily Show, 5 white people and 5 black people where asked the same questions. The white people thought racism is mostly gone, black people saw that very differently. The white people were asked if they had ever been stopped and frisked, 4 said no, 1 said yes but on the airport when taking a plane. The black people where asked the same question and 4 out of 5 said they had been stopped and frisked and the only one who wasn't just moved to New York.

    Racism is not a real problem if you are white. Your voting rights are not meddled with. You have a better chance at getting a job. You are mostly treated better by the police and the odds of being racially profiled if you are white is not that large. Being racially discriminated, whether they feel it unjustly or justly is mostly felt by those who get racially discriminated against.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, you took that as some twisted license to jump on it like a duck on a june bug, too. Awesome job of proving my point, though.
    Yes, I took that as a license to say that in the US it is historically down to white people to perpetrate racism. Not trying to be rotten or insulting but relaying the historical facts.

    Now the US has improved markedly since those days but sadly for a lot of people the change has not been radical enough (and those people would be those people that still feel discriminated against).
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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    If your right, this is bad news for America.

    But I have faith in most Americans and after eight years of Obama's failures, mistrust of those who wear the uniform, Al Qaeda running all over the Middle East and North Africa, the politicizing of the IRS, NSA spying on Americans and lies about Benghazi and eight years of Obama blaming Bush for all of his (Obama) failures, the American people will be sick of Obama and liberal policies of the Democrat Party.

    The only "hope" the Democrats have and it's a slim chance that by 2016 that the majority of Americans have a monkey on their backs and have become addicted to all of the free stuff that Democrats give away for their votes.
    You completely missed my point but yeah sure

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, as an African American he has a bit more feeling with these kinds of issues. And where most white people do not see racism, does not mean that blacks do not see racism on a regular basis. People who do not suffer racism are not as likely to feel racism. And right or not, the word racial profiling is around and happens. While it may not be representative of all things, this week on (I think it was) the Daily Show, 5 white people and 5 black people where asked the same questions. The white people thought racism is mostly gone, black people saw that very differently. The white people were asked if they had ever been stopped and frisked, 4 said no, 1 said yes but on the airport when taking a plane. The black people where asked the same question and 4 out of 5 said they had been stopped and frisked and the only one who wasn't just moved to New York.
    The Daily Show is a comedy show. They're not making real points, they're trying to be funny. The focus group was likely set up for that outcome. That's, uh, kind of how comedy works.

    Racism is not a real problem if you are white.
    Tell that to white people in predominantly black and/or hispanic neighborhoods. You're ignorant.

    Your voting rights are not meddled with.
    Having to show an ID to vote is not meddling with your voting rights, sorry.

    You have a better chance at getting a job. You are mostly treated better by the police and the odds of being racially profiled if you are white is not that large. Being racially discriminated, whether they feel it unjustly or justly is mostly felt by those who get racially discriminated against.

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    Yes, I've seen the skit thanks.

    I hate to inform you, but comedy is often staged. For example, the lady wasn't REALLY sweating that much. That was scripted. The "focus groups" were either actors (the most likely case) or selected for that outcome, because if they didn't say those things, the comedy would be ruined. If it wasn't funny, it would be a waste of time, because the goal is, again, to be funny, not to make a real point.
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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    The Daily Show is a comedy show. They're not making real points, they're trying to be funny. The focus group was likely set up for that outcome. That's, uh, kind of how comedy works.



    Tell that to white people in predominantly black and/or hispanic neighborhoods. You're ignorant.



    Having to show an ID to vote is not meddling with your voting rights, sorry.



    Yes, I've seen the skit thanks.

    I hate to inform you, but comedy is often staged. For example, the lady wasn't REALLY sweating that much. That was scripted. The "focus groups" were either actors (the most likely case) or selected for that outcome, because if they didn't say those things, the comedy would be ruined. If it wasn't funny, it would be a waste of time, because the goal is, again, to be funny, not to make a real point.
    A 2011 USA today poll asked:

    "Do you think new civil rights laws are needed to reduce discrimination against blacks, or not?"

    All answered:

    Are needed 21 %
    Are not needed 76 %
    Unsure 2 %

    But when looking at race it was a lot different:

    Whites respondents only:
    Are needed 15 %
    Are not needed 83 %
    Unsure 3 %

    Black respondents only:
    Are needed 52 %
    Are not needed 48 %
    Unsure 1 %


    When asked about interracial marriages:

    86% of all respondents approved, 11% disapproved and 3% where unsure.

    Of the black respondents only 2% disapproved whereas 14% of the white respondents disapproved. Now that is a lot better than in 1994 when only 48% approved.

    You can find this poll on Pollingreport.


    Like it or not, blacks and whites often see this racial issue differently. That is not because white people do this on purpose but if you are not the victim of discrimination you will see that issue a lot different then when you regularly are the victim of said discrimination.
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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, I took that as a license to say that in the US it is historically down to white people to perpetrate racism. Not trying to be rotten or insulting but relaying the historical facts.

    Now the US has improved markedly since those days but sadly for a lot of people the change has not been radical enough (and those people would be those people that still feel discriminated against).
    Sadly most of those people don't want discrimination to go away and will never let it go away and they're all Libbos.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ [W:161]

    And please understand, I am not saying that a lot of white people in this day and age are racist. What I am saying is that white people feel differently about this issue than blacks, that is not down to not giving a you know what, it is that they do not know how it is to be black in America today. A lot of things have gotten better for blacks but a lot of things are still worse for blacks than for the majority of whites.

    That has nothing to do with malice or lack of caring on the part of the whites but on not understand what blacks truly feel/have to live with.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    A 2011 USA today poll asked:

    "Do you think new civil rights laws are needed to reduce discrimination against blacks, or not?"

    All answered:

    Are needed 21 %
    Are not needed 76 %
    Unsure 2 %

    But when looking at race it was a lot different:

    Whites respondents only:
    Are needed 15 %
    Are not needed 83 %
    Unsure 3 %

    Black respondents only:
    Are needed 52 %
    Are not needed 48 %
    Unsure 1 %


    When asked about interracial marriages:

    86% of all respondents approved, 11% disapproved and 3% where unsure.

    Of the black respondents only 2% disapproved whereas 14% of the white respondents disapproved. Now that is a lot better than in 1994 when only 48% approved.

    You can find this poll on Pollingreport.


    Like it or not, blacks and whites often see this racial issue differently. That is not because white people do this on purpose but if you are not the victim of discrimination you will see that issue a lot different then when you regularly are the victim of said discrimination.
    Libbos don't want blacks to ever feel tht they're not being oppressed. I'm sure that most Libbos screeched at seeing 48% of blacks saying that civil rights laws aren't needed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ [W:161]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    And please understand, I am not saying that a lot of white people in this day and age are racist. What I am saying is that white people feel differently about this issue than blacks, that is not down to not giving a you know what, it is that they do not know how it is to be black in America today. A lot of things have gotten better for blacks but a lot of things are still worse for blacks than for the majority of whites.

    That has nothing to do with malice or lack of caring on the part of the whites but on not understand what blacks truly feel/have to live with.
    I know exactly what it's like being black in America.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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