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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Sykes View Post
    Nobody bothers trying to prove opinions as erroneous. It's like trying to prove faith.
    Well, not really, but whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, that's what the Libbos want us to believe. The Leftists have far more to gain from racial divisions than any other party.
    First of all, I was talking about political divisions. Racial divisive?

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    Fact is, the leftists don't have to do anything to feed racial divisions, the republican party does that all for them. The leftists just have to point it out and they don't have to look hard for examples.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Ooo, the forefathers must be rolling in their graves to hear you say that.
    How do you figure that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    First of all, I was talking about political divisions. Racial divisive?

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    Fact is, the leftists don't have to do anything to feed racial divisions, the republican party does that all for them. The leftists just have to point it out and they don't have to look hard for examples.
    Yeah, keep dreaming that it all white people's fault.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    The extreme divide has more to do with the extremely divided republican party than the democratic party.

    To win elections the republican party has to placate the extreme religious/extreme (please note, I did not say extremist) right side of their party.

    I have been very closely following US presidential elections since 1988 during the George Bush senior ran against Dukakis. This was already a bit on the nasty side with the Willy Horton adds but compared to how the US political scene is now, that election was relatively polite compared to later elections. Ever since the hawks/right side of the republican party has tasted the success of the Bush junior presidential victories they have become a very very vocal minority in the republican party. Together with the extremely religious part of the republican party, main stream republican politicians/presidential candidates have to bend over backwards to get nominated/elected.

    Look at Mitt Romney, who had to run on a platform of being a very very very conservative republican to even get nominated, after which he had to try and etch-a-sketch himself to even make a chance to get elected.

    It is not the democratic party or it's president who have moved from their political position (or not much at least) but it has been the republican party who has moved towards the right so much that it has lead to at least a very extreme political divisiveness in the US political scene. Not even the great republican take-over of 1994 was so divisive as the current Republican congress. They worked (forced due to the realities of the time) with Bill Clinton to have a prosperous time with much better fiscal balance that since then.

    But democrats are also to blame for the bad fiscal balance of today but as the republicans have control of the house and they have clearly proven their insistence not to want to work with Obama no matter what (to save their own skins in the next election cycle because if they do not they will be toppled by tea-party members from their cushy congressional seats/senate seats). The total number of ridiculous votes against Obamacare proves IMHO that the republicans are only interested in working against Obama and have no wish to compromise in any way shape or form.
    The problem today in the Republican Party is that nobody is in charge. This has been true since 2010 when the neoconservatives lost control of the GOP.

    You mention "hawks/right side" of the Republican Party and G.W. Bush. Those are not the right side of the GOP but neoconservatives. I wish people would do their home work and they would discover that neoconservatives are not conservatives but are liberal refuges who fled the Democrat Party during the late 60's and throughout the 70's and came under the GOP tent.

    The conservative base of the Republican Party controlled the Party throughout the 80's and early 90's until they lost control to the neoconservatives. That's how G.W. Bush won the GOP nomination at the RNC in 2000.

    The neoconservatives lost control of the Republican Party in 2010 and nobody is in control of the GOP today.

    The Tea Party movement is not a political party, it's a movement. And not all members of that movement are Republicans, it also includes Libertarians and independents.

    It's the Democrat Party who has moved extremely to the left over the past four decades. This is what caused so many liberals to leave the Democrat Party. Many became neoconservatives while many just became independents. Where did the "Reagan Democrats" go ?

    If you look under the Democrat Party tent today you will notice that it's a carnival. When you walk down the mid-way you will see the majority of society isn't represented. That the Party is made up of small interest groups each only representing the interest of a small fraction of society. The reason the Democrat Party are all in lock-step because the rules are we will support your special interest group radical agenda as long as you support my radical agenda for my special interest group no matter how loony it is. The Democrat Party is no longer what's best for America, and the majority of Americans but what's best for the Democrat Party and what's best for a minority of Americans.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, keep dreaming that it all white people's fault.
    Deflection. Can't deal with the tea partiers signs. It's who these people are, and more to the point, be honest, it's who you are, isn't it?

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, keep dreaming that it all white people's fault.
    Would you care to explain that?

    People of any creed or color can be racist but it certainly seems that you are implying more than that and I would love to hear what you have to say.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by ZapFinch42 View Post
    Would you care to explain that?

    People of any creed or color can be racist but it certainly seems that you are implying more than that and I would love to hear what you have to say.
    The mantra of the Libbos is always, "if wasn't for all the racist Conservative white people", there would be no racism. Peter King proved my point eloquently.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The problem today in the Republican Party is that nobody is in charge. This has been true since 2010 when the neoconservatives lost control of the GOP.

    You mention "hawks/right side" of the Republican Party and G.W. Bush. Those are not the right side of the GOP but neoconservatives. I wish people would do their home work and they would discover that neoconservatives are not conservatives but are liberal refuges who fled the Democrat Party during the late 60's and throughout the 70's and came under the GOP tent.

    The conservative base of the Republican Party controlled the Party throughout the 80's and early 90's until they lost control to the neoconservatives. That's how G.W. Bush won the GOP nomination at the RNC in 2000.

    The neoconservatives lost control of the Republican Party in 2010 and nobody is in control of the GOP today.

    The Tea Party movement is not a political party, it's a movement. And not all members of that movement are Republicans, it also includes Libertarians and independents.

    It's the Democrat Party who has moved extremely to the left over the past four decades. This is what caused so many liberals to leave the Democrat Party. Many became neoconservatives while many just became independents. Where did the "Reagan Democrats" go ?

    If you look under the Democrat Party tent today you will notice that it's a carnival. When you walk down the mid-way you will see the majority of society isn't represented. That the Party is made up of small interest groups each only representing the interest of a small fraction of society. The reason the Democrat Party are all in lock-step because the rules are we will support your special interest group radical agenda as long as you support my radical agenda for my special interest group no matter how loony it is. The Democrat Party is no longer what's best for America, and the majority of Americans but what's best for the Democrat Party and what's best for a minority of Americans.
    The democratic party has moved on with the times but has not changed much since the Clinton years, unlike the republican party of which parts have moved so far away from the center that if they do not change their ways they will keep loosing big elections they have not been able to gerrymander. Or worse, have taken steps to make sure that as many democratic voters as possible are disenfranchised.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Obama Protesters Sing 'Bye Bye Black Sheep,' in AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by ZapFinch42 View Post
    Would you care to explain that?

    People of any creed or color can be racist but it certainly seems that you are implying more than that and I would love to hear what you have to say.
    See?

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Deflection. Can't deal with the tea partiers signs. It's who these people are, and more to the point, be honest, it's who you are, isn't it?
    Anyone who isn't wearing their blinders and isn't lockstep with Obama is automatically labeled a racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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